Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

there's also too much engagement between RcE and Ico and it's all kinda flat

[RadiantCowbells]

and my notes say lynch one of plum, math, Skitter, Ari.

also the hyper indirectness of 'my notes say to do x' as opposed to something like we should do x is a big scumtell

[skitter30]

hm. this is interesting
i'm not sure i get it tho.

do you mean that rce was like trying to continue an old convo as if it was like ~important~ in real time later?
otherwise not sure i get where you're going with this ?

[skitter30]

oh i actually associate notes with townieness tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think you should but take this into account. I'm going to use this example but in reality I'm remaining impartial. Example:

Ank is scumreading me here, I know my alignment and I also know that Ank does not know me well enough to have a solid read on me. Now I have to make an assessment on your alignment based on a read from a player that isn't in this game. Because Ank could be feeding you a trajectory to create mislynches.

When I would much rather know how you yourself are reading the game because you're the one playing and the slot that I have to sort here, not Ank.

Does that make sense?

Also this entire thing is... kinda weird. And I've been fluctuating on it, but it's kinda weird

oh i actually associate notes with townieness tbh

having notes? sure

"my notes say to do x", no.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think you should but take this into account. I'm going to use this example but in reality I'm remaining impartial. Example:

Ank is scumreading me here, I know my alignment and I also know that Ank does not know me well enough to have a solid read on me. Now I have to make an assessment on your alignment based on a read from a player that isn't in this game. Because Ank could be feeding you a trajectory to create mislynches.

When I would much rather know how you yourself are reading the game because you're the one playing and the slot that I have to sort here, not Ank.

Does that make sense?

Also this entire thing is... kinda weird. And I've been fluctuating on it, but it's kinda weird

oh i actually associate notes with townieness tbh

having notes? sure

"my notes say to do x", no.

[skitter30]

idk don't really have an opinion on the notes thing

not sure rce starts teh game by setting up a trajectory to try to lynch/sr me if he's scum

also is this more of a 'i sr rce and think ico might be a valid partner' type thing or do you sr them both?

because i'm kinda approaching this from the opposite angle - like i think that rce is townier than not and ico's the one that i'm not sure about

[RadiantCowbells]

well i'm not really motivated to convince you of something you're already willing to believe, if that makes sense?
keep in mind that i actually am not even close to ready to vote. I don't think we're ever lynching RcE today. I'm just bringing it up for the future
I was going to case Ico later but I can do that now if you'd prefer so you have something to think about

i'm actually kinda okay with the Flopz wagon rn

[Aristophanes]

I'm done for the night, so not to self that I'm at pg 18.

GL HF cu next time.

[RadiantCowbells]

can you give some sort of meaningful catchup now

[skitter30]

i'm ok with a flopz vote, i think

[skitter30]

well i'm not really motivated to convince you of something you're already willing to believe, if that makes sense?

fair enough

[skitter30]

ari are you going to share any of your thoughts or ... ?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ari is a big SR for me, for the usual reasons, the Maths pocket attempt was not cool.

this is actually really bad regardless of ari's alignment tbh

[RCEnigma]

oh i actually associate notes with townieness tbh

There were no notes ftr. Everything I post is off the cuff or whatever I'm thinking at the time with the exception of one game modded by boon.

[skitter30]

and my notes say lynch one of plum, math, Skitter, Ari.

also the hyper indirectness of 'my notes say to do x' as opposed to something like we should do x is a big scumtell

so what was this then ? ^

[RCEnigma]

it's when someone makes a statement that clearly takes place at a discrete time but tries to force continuity in it

Not sure what this means.

[RadiantCowbells]

It means you talk about a change but the post was made at a time that the change already happened and you decided to talk about it like it was a fluid, continuous thing anyway.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't expect it to make much sense but it's actually a pretty good tell!

[skitter30]

i think i do that as town tho?

[RCEnigma]

and my notes say lynch one of plum, math, Skitter, Ari.

also the hyper indirectness of 'my notes say to do x' as opposed to something like we should do x is a big scumtell

so what was this then ? ^

Joking terminology I guess? Idk I don't have an explanation for it. Its just how I phrased it.

[skitter30]

esp. in wallpost mode

[RCEnigma]

It means you talk about a change but the post was made at a time that the change already happened and you decided to talk about it like it was a fluid, continuous thing anyway.

Applies to the first part of that quote then not the second correct?

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I said, it's entirely NAI for certain people but when people do it and it's not a typical part of their posting style it's a very very AI thing.

Unfortunately it ends up hitting PRs a lot for whatever reason.

[skitter30]

i'm reasonably confident people called me out on that at least twice in wallpost!me mode, but i couldn't point out where off the cuff rn

pedit
huh

i will have to keep track of this then