Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Something_Smart]

I wanted to spark some actual discussion about people's reasons.

And it seemed like it worked, so yay.

[Elsa Jay]

I think S_S defending hec and elsa trying to quickhammer it is comment enough until we see a flip.

Sure thing boss.

I remember town!Kokichi saying things like, “can I hammer my tr now?”

Yeah, it's clearly a player-dependent thing. I don't recall any Elsa-hammers off the top of my head so I don't know if this is a thing he likes to do as town or as scum (or both).

Time for you to find out. And so we're clear, I did in fact believe Titus when she said it was L-1. That wasn't a ballsy call out or something fancy.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, I have been a little unhappy irl recently. I try not to let real life affect my emotions here, but maybe it leaked into my interaction with you? I'm not sure how though because I was just trying to stay level headed and reasonable. My lack of engagement before was because I hadn't read the game until yesterday.
But since you've somehow gauged that and are scumreading me for it, please don't. I'm not asking you to townread me for this, I just want you to consider it NAI. Also, vote Pine with me if you scumread him too.

I've realised I shouldn't force myself to play if I'm feeling down so I'll be back tomorrow after hopefully a good night of sleep.

i think this post is disgusting - hectic is kinda lowkey bringing AtE to the game which is out of character for him and seems to be sad about being caught for the wrong reasons by using the NAI argument

maybe im wrong

My issue is he doesn’t only seem sad but somehow emotionally disconnected. You can still be sad and not emotionally disconnected. But I’d still rather wait than be wrong.

[pisskop]

big oof elle

[Nancy Drew 39]

I have. I don’t think you really understand the actual meaning of a policy lynch. Just because you disagree with the reasons, doesn’t make it a pl.

Right, you had some stuff about his non-reaction to Titus outing the hood, and him seeming disconnected.

I do know what a policy lynch is. I was somewhat sarcastically assuming that people who hadn't given reasons simply wanted him dead because he was annoying, which was an intentional exaggeration. I wanted to spark some actual discussion about people's reasons.

I don’t consider him annoying.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I remember town!Kokichi saying things like, “can I hammer my tr now?”

Yeah, it's clearly a player-dependent thing. I don't recall any Elsa-hammers off the top of my head so I don't know if this is a thing he likes to do as town or as scum (or both).

She’s pretty flippant as any alignment, I think it’s just playstyle.

[OkaPoka]

I know newbies are newbies but the hectic I played with in a newbie was a lot more trolly as town than here oddly enough.

[OkaPoka]

like a part of me thinks maybe hectic sees this is team mafia and is taking things more seriously and the doctor meme was a slip of nature

and a part of me thinks that hectic realized that nobody is okay with his shenanigans and as scum he's editing himself to be more "normal"

in the newbie i was in with him he was straight lying and gambitting and trolling and he caught flak for it but eventually alls was good for him

[OkaPoka]

but outside the trolly bits

there is a certain style of hectic when he is doing normal things that kinda couldn't come out during his talking w nancy

so who knows hectic

time for you to shine

[Micc]

Votecount 1.10

Hectic (5) -

Pine, DrDolittle, OkaPoka, Titus, Elsa Jay

OkaPoka (2) -

Krazy, NaCl

popsofctown (1) -

Amrun

Pine (1) -

Hectic

DrDolittle (1) -

bob3141

Eddie Cane (1) -

popsofctown

Not Voting (4) -

Something_Smart, Eddie Cane, pisskop, Nancy Drew 39

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2020-01-16 22:00:00).

[OkaPoka]

omg we are so close to spelling a word in the vc

bob needs to unvote and revote

[Eddie Cane]

I am not voting hectic atm for 2 reasons, despite his honestly pretty awful content.

1) thread movement makes his wagon icky
2) I dont think hes ever with pops and I have not yet reconciled my pops scum read

[OkaPoka]

does krazy usually fall behind?

[Pine]

VOTE: Hectic

Seems like this is a popular wagon.

Consider this my birthday surprise.

REAL L1

Damn, thought I got to quickhammer.

Page 41 after almost a week is not quickhammer.

REAL L1

Why are we here already.

Gay Mafia 1 was already done for five pages by now.

But it doesn't really seem like a good idea to policy lynch someone in one third of the allotted time.

This is not a policy lynch, you're just having cold feet.

Your comment on the wagon happening quickly makes sense but how is Hectic a policy lynch?

Given that he's trolled a lot and nobody's stated any reasons for actually thinking he's scum, it's a pretty reasonable assumption.

A) That

is

a reason to think he's scum
B) That's not the only reason

Aside from the doc crumb thing which was clearly bullshit.

Disagree

ftr i dont particularly SR S_S right now.

Neither do I. >Avg Town

just one more vote for heck plz

You want me to revote him right now?

I mean, if you do I intend to hammer the moment we get a new vote on them.

Oh, well as SS pointed out, we still have 9 days, so I’m not in any rush. He is still my preferred wagon unless something changes in the next 9 days.

But I do think there’s something to consider wrt the speed of that wagon, so I’m fine waiting.

Having time is not really a good reason to spend it fruitlessly. There's a fairly strong correlation lately between long games and scum wins. Waste not, want not.

I'm ready for a flip.

[Titus]

The only sorta scumread I have on the wagon are ddl and elsa Jay. I doubt both are scum (wagon would be overloaded). If they both are, then it's bus cred major.

If Hectic flips town, one scum max on his wagon right now.

Ok I'm ready for the flip.

[Nancy Drew 39]

The only sorta scumread I have on the wagon are ddl and elsa Jay. I doubt both are scum (wagon would be overloaded). If they both are, then it's bus cred major.

If Hectic flips town, one scum max on his wagon right now.

Ok I'm ready for the flip.

I don’t think either of them are scum but more confident on Elsa.
I think SS is town in any case.

He said he will post more tomorrow, so what catastrophe will befall us if we wait until then? @Pine

If his posts are still horrendous, then we can still powerlynch him but no harm will come to us waiting to find that out.

[Pine]

He who? I don’t have a problem waiting for something specific, I just don’t support open-ended indecisiveness.

[Pine]

He Hectic? If he’s got real content to contribute, like a detailed reads list, I’ll look at it

[Eddie Cane]

Pine, work through your pops town read for me please. Also your me read

[Pine]

I don’t really have a you read, but it’s 2:25 AM so you’re just going to have to be happy for now with Mastina and I agreeing strongly on that count. Ask me when it’s not stupid o’clock and I’ll elaborate, but I tend to forget stuff like this.

[Hectic]

Scumread when I joke around, and scumread when I post seriously. There's no winning in this game and I don't have much motivation to play. But here's a reads lsot from the top of my head (mobile posting)
Pine - scum: Scumread me early on for NAI things, and since then has talked about me being scum while talking about teams and wolves, yet not stated any reasons for me being scum.
Nancy - townlean: The only scum pings I got from her were during those whole doctor shenanigans but if she speaks the truth in that she never takes emotions, then it's NAI.
Okapoka: Townread
SS: Townread
Eddie: Scumlean based off pops' logic
Pops: Townlean, logical posts through the game. Her reaction seemed genuine when Eddie outed the hood
DDL: Scumlean - haven't liked his content this game, and vote hopping onto me
Titus: scumlean - reasons I've specified already and being okay with a flip 9 days early is ???
Elsa Jay - neutral: I don't remember much but he seemed alright? The attempted hammer is NAI because he admitted to it when it wasn't obvious he actually thought that would be a hammer

That's everyone I remember right now.

[Hectic]

VOTE: DDL

[Hectic]

I'll be on today though. I ISOed both Eddie and DDL and Eddie's other contributions have actually been decent, hence the DDL vote.
Just give me a call if you're interested in Pine or have a dayvig for sale though.

[Hectic]

OK, so I forgot a LOT of people in my reads list. Bob is being extra robotty and hasn't OMGUSed this game, but only I've voted for him iirc, and that was an obvious joke vote. When we gonna see your famed VCA, Bob? Amrun is a gut scum but not really sure why.

[Pine]

I mean...that readslist is pretty blatant jury manipulation