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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:47 am

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In post 1108, the worst wrote:
maybe check her confidence, nsg hasn't townread me in like... it might be pushing on a year. I'll check if I'm bored.

I'd be p interested in town!Bella reasons I wanna consult the team about her but Ank doesn't like her
In post 1110, RadiantCowbells wrote:nsg: please dont overly weight my reads
me: everything in this list is 100% true and accurate
In post 1111, RadiantCowbells wrote:basically, you don't have any clear scumreads that you have original thoughts on outside of consensus, you're not really trying to get people lynched, and she viscerally, strongly, overwhelmingly hates your failure to townread skitter when you should have.
your response here feels like, disrespectful to everything I've posted today tbh

I've tried to steam of consciousness where I'm at as much as possible despite not being particularly invested. your read on me
1) reverts to before today, which is a regression of your read on me earlier today
2) is less nuances than your earlier read on me
3) drops your own read for that of someone who's accuracy on me has hardcore tanked just because she holistically has a very good towngame

I'm exhausted and some parts of this game are really frustrating. posting in this game is exhausting. make me feel like my posting is a waste of time and I'm probably going to lash out.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:49 am

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In post 1124, Iconeum wrote:worst, I don't really understand your reasons for being a bit salty about that 'nsg scumread' on you. RC slot puts you just below null, which I think town!you would be expecting to be put. It's also the important thing here, not what RC team thinks of you behind the scenes.

Do you think you should be townread right now?
I don't care where I am on RC's readlist. I care that he feels as though my posts are worth reading, and that it's his read on me.

Town!me doesn't have an expectation for where he's put on a readlist. He just doesn't take crap from people using 2d reasoning when they're more than capable of better.
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:50 am

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I crashed out and there are 15 pages. I’ll try to catch up in free periods but don’t have extended time til tonight/+13
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:51 am

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slow down, duck

I think RC is giving you every opportunity here, even saying smt like 'just take the day 1 off'
There's no disrespect

I'm reading you like you are frustrated about stuff (game related or not), and it's having it's toll on your tone this game. A tone that doesn't scream town!duck.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:53 am

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duck you are being unpleasant this game in a way that i have never seen from you before and i think you should just take a break here.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:53 am

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In post 1126, the worst wrote:He just doesn't take crap from people using 2d reasoning when they're more than capable of better.
Ok. I think specifically the 'not townreading skitter' part of what has been said by RC (nsg) was a good reason tho. Call me 2d for that if you like.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:53 am

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I'm ok with giving tw a pass till day 2

If he's posting like this then / not really ~motivated~ still then i'm going to have to push him and be sad
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:54 am

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those were NSGs reasons. they weren't my reasons. my thoughts never changed except i had to take into account NSG's reads. I even asked her to verify her record reading you in terms of how much i weighted her read.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:54 am

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hi skitter

i'm here

wanna talk about stuff

before you say that i am dodging you again :D
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:54 am

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(which she obviously hasn't seen because she's asleep)
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:56 am

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In post 1133, Iconeum wrote:hi skitter

i'm here

wanna talk about stuff

before you say that i am dodging you again :D
I dont think i said you were dodging me?

I have to get ready for work in approximately 2 minutes so i'm about to bounce

Did you respond to what i said about your plum read? If ya can you point me to it?
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:57 am

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I feel a lot of nuance was abandoned between
In post 983, RadiantCowbells wrote:like i said earlier, because you have taken stances that you would know i wouldn't like while also having me as a clear slot
so you're both instigating me and you're not allowing yourself to mislynch me for going after you which seems like the correct move in team mafia from your pov
i also think scum you wouldn't actually try to keep skitter30 open as a mislynch? like that seems... not likely
In post 986, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm aware my townread on you ~isn't good enough~. I don't care, to be blunt. I'm not afraid of you not getting scumread after I get nightkilled.
If Skitter30 wasn't already like dicey about you along with the rest of the game I would care more about handling you but people SRing you makes me even more comfortable not caring.
I'm not playing this to win in a strict sense or to be perfect, I just want to do a good enough job of finding scum that I don't feel bad about it after and then leave the site.
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In post 1111, RadiantCowbells wrote:basically, you don't have any clear scumreads that you have original thoughts on outside of consensus, you're not really trying to get people lynched, and she viscerally, strongly, overwhelmingly hates your failure to townread skitter when you should have.
I'm exasperated because him sheeping nsg is a dead end and his reads earlier were so much more interesting.

look I don't feel all that mean right now? i actually feel fairly reverent given that I feel entitled to call people out on sheeping objectively less nuanced reads than their own?

I'll go reread my last few posts or smth
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:58 am

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to me that nsg read like just contradicts your reasons for weakly townreading me please tell me if I'm going mad
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:59 am

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In post 1129, RadiantCowbells wrote:duck you are being unpleasant this game in a way that i have never seen from you before and i think you should just take a break here.
I dont think he's being unpleasant?

Just like super unmotivated/not interested rn which i think isnt ai rn and i thought he was getting a pass till day2
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:59 am

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Tbf i do think you should have been townreading me earlier than you did
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:00 am

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In post 777, Iconeum wrote:
In post 482, Plum wrote:Ico should explain his progression on me, it is not a good look that he made a case on me that was explained entirely by posts I had made, unvoted when I helpfully quoted from my ISO, and has declined to acknowledge that I've asked him to discuss the matter. Just like pretending the issue doesn't exist and hoping it will go away on its own?
i saw stuff that pinged me

you replied with stuff that explained it

it was good enough for me

i unvoted
@skitter, would this answer you?

if you want me to into 'stuff' details, I could. If you wanted to.
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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:01 am

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Also are you like conflating rc's reporting of nsg's read and rc's own read and accusing him of losing nuance when all he did was share nsg's read or am i misunderstanding ...
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:02 am

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In post 1139, skitter30 wrote:Tbf i do think you should have been townreading me earlier than you did
other then your scumread on me, our scumreads are about the same, and I already mentioned what you quoted here just now. So if I'm scum, what's my play here?
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:02 am

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Share as in report, to clarify
Not share as in agree
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:03 am

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maybe i'm overreacting but like taking potshots at nsg is my enrage button.
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:03 am

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In post 1142, Iconeum wrote:
In post 1139, skitter30 wrote:Tbf i do think you should have been townreading me earlier than you did
other then your scumread on me, our scumreads are about the same, and I already mentioned what you quoted here just now. So if I'm scum, what's my play here?
I was talking to tw there, not you

What's your read on me?
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:04 am

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I'm being a lot more candid than usual because I'm exhausted and a bit annoyed. I don't think I'm being unpleasant outside of fairly limited rhetoric. Actually given this is largely a conversation about holistic meta/skillsets I'm surprised I've been this focused? I feel valid rn

pedit: I mean between the two I have objectively gone from being a weak townread to just south of null. the stuff he's shared from nsg feels like stuff he's vicariously acknowledged through his earlier post. it does feel like his read on me has regressed ya
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:04 am

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Ok really gotta go now, later
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:04 am

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I quoted that specifically to mention that I also already had that thought, and posted it

I believe I also posted my read on you already, lemme look it back up
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:05 am

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In post 778, Iconeum wrote:I'm townreading skitter and RC based on their 1v1

more specifically that skitter is taking the 1v1 instead of trying to get underneath it, which would be scum indicating to me
and I can see RC attempting to sort this game out
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