Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Flopz]

i think that mathblade is scum with implosion

i am a gunsmith and can confirm that implosion has not one but two guns

Can you like stop faking shit already?

We all know you’re a super arrogant asshole and I am trying desperately not to repeat my mistake when you fake claimed PGO and I had proof it was impossible but ugh you are making it really hard not to rage at you right now.

What the fuck is this supposed to be, fair critique my ass.

[the worst]

Flopz I'm pretty exasperated too but positive change starts with us, not by raging at the institution. You mentioned being uncomfortable with RC and teacher painting you as scum. How are you reading those players' alignments?

Given we're here to lynch scum not to lynch people based on the quality of their arguments

[RadiantCowbells]

dang

why is everyone getting my townreads

[Iconeum]

Alright lads, new year ergo new me. I'm getting REAL annoyed at all these players jumping down on me just because I'm not good at this game. RadisntCowbells (what kind of name even is that?) and teacher implying I'm scum.

What a load of horseshit!

Back off NOW and stop scumreading me for shitty reasons. All I was doing was saying I'm involving myself in the game and all I got in return was attack after bloody attack. How am I supposed to even breathe at this point?!?!?

I joined as a personal favour to Hectic but nobody told me it was going to be like this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun game wiht intersesting debates where everyone was supposed to critique the arguments and not belittle everyone's character but this was completely different to that. Who'd want their first game to be filled with such utter tripe? I expected better from such

VETERANS

. If Team Mafia is supposed to be representative of the site as a whole, the mods should be clamping down on this toxicity and personal attacks. Aggressiveness and enthusiasm are absolutely fine, attacks and toxicity are beyond the pale.

Just look at 154, how is that even allowed?

My Team has already lost the game at this point so this is just a slog for slogging's sake. Hopkirk spent fucking eages ranting about this shit on this discord about how it's now literally impossible for us to win no matter what we fucking do. We've spent more time arguing about that then I have even spent in this terrible game. We've already got a modkill on D1 which has killed much of my enthusiam for Team Mafia and all this bullshittery going on is not fucking helping anything.

instead of quoting the one post this game has had that went into toxic territory (but it actually isn't toxic at all), I don't know what game you've been reading.

There's a lot of discussion out there about WHY you are potentially scum, but you seem to be ignorting this because? If you think you can hide behind calling this game and it's players toxic, you are sadly mistaken.

If you want debates, how about you start adressing the posts that call you scum? Or make actual contributions to the game? Because you called your previous posts 'not scumhunting' yourself.

[RadiantCowbells]

so what is it

tris/xtoxm/ari?

[Iconeum]

So that was an amount to read. I read half the forum yesterday and the rest today and I'll just say what thoughts have popped into my dome from this experience.

From the whole Maths v RC situation it seems at the very least that they aren't svs. The constant bickering is way too much to be fabricated in my humble opinion. Still, the sudden TR of RC by Math was odd and ellicited a ping or two. I can definitely see the LAMIST accusations at Math too, will need to do another big look over to nail where I land on them at this stage in the game.

Now to the RC v Skitters debacle, Skitters had initially pinged me as Scum which was bolstered in the if Math is Scum so is RC chain of reasoning. However, the way that Skitters had reacted did not seem Scum constructed to get out of trying to spread faulty logic and more of a genuine emotional reaction in the way it played out which more or less flipped my read on its head.

Ari is a big SR for me, for the usual reasons, the Maths pocket attempt was not cool.

UNVOTE:

Gonna be disappearing for a decent portion of the day, should hopefully be able to show up in the evening.

VOTE: Ari I see the mistake and am fixing it post haste. I was gonna do that when I returned in the evening, with some more substance, which I see was a bad move.

Plum, this wasn't really an attempt at scumhunting, The post was just to show I was alive and had read the thread. I can't see what you mean by buddying with Ari.

Maths, I don't think I've said enough yet to count as agreeing with you too much. The only part from what I've written that I've seen you agree with is the last part.

flopz, if you say it wasn't meant as scumhunting, why did you feel the need to make it look like you scumhunting? why not just pop in and say you are reviewing everything?

this makes me feel like you are very worried about how your slot is perceived here, moreso then any townie would really be concerned about

also 'Ari is a big SR to me' without voting there isn't town thinking

VOTE: flopz

here, respond to this for instance

[Iconeum]

@flopz, you seem disgusted by the fact you are being scumread right now.

Do you think there are any good reasons for us to be townreading you?

[RadiantCowbells]

like tris-xtoxm-ari is the obvious associative chain in the game, i believe i referenced this before

[Iconeum]

50 bucks says floppie hasn't actually read past that mathblade post yet

[Iconeum]

i take that back lol i'm being silly again

[the worst]

Do you think flopz is trying to become TM2020's most famous meme? I don't think he can do it unless he halts his catchup immediately to play soccer

[Flopz]

@flopz, you seem disgusted by the fact you are being scumread right now.

Do you think there are any good reasons for us to be townreading you?

I haven't done enough for anything to go either way which is why i'm so exhasperated for the calls for my head when all I've done is drop in and say hi.

[RadiantCowbells]

i got ur back bro

i will show everyone the might of the true dictator seal

[Flopz]

I was scumread before even joining the game, what am i supposed to do about that?

[teacher]

That’s a fair take RC, and the hypothetical situation is indeed possible. Indeed, that’s exactly what I was doing - I find the ease of the wagon on flopz distasteful, and it was the ease of it which made me prefer xtomx - to see if it’s a generic low-post wagon that can be shifted, or if there is motivation to this particular target. I normally dislike lynching the first serious wagon of the day, so wanted to see how a push off it would affect the board.

Skitter is not today’s lynch, so that wasn’t a counter proposal. I doubt Bella goes through, even if I want it to - that was a genuine request for your reasons to town the slot. And I do prefer xtomx to flopz, so am pushing that, but primarily because of the lack of opposition to Flopz or other redirect attempts.

Pedit: that’s a ton of posts since I started this, which was right after RC said xtomx won’t play while RC is alive (no idea of post number)

[RadiantCowbells]

dw teacher i already look dum

flopz is top town

[RadiantCowbells]

flopz is my new mason buddy

[Iconeum]

what the f is going on here

[Iconeum]

i wish datisi was here to translate for me

[RadiantCowbells]

datisi is scum in this game

[the worst]

it's that smile isn't it?

[Flopz]

Do you think flopz is trying to become TM2020's most famous meme? I don't think he can do it unless he halts his catchup immediately to play soccer

Am I supposed to know what that is?

[Iconeum]

@flopz, you seem disgusted by the fact you are being scumread right now.

Do you think there are any good reasons for us to be townreading you?

I haven't done enough for anything to go either way which is why i'm so exhasperated for the calls for my head when all I've done is drop in and say hi.

i just quoted you why i'm scumreading you

it has nothing to do with pre-game but everything with what you wrote

[the worst]

I'm going to just.... not have a read on flopz either
maybe by the time I'm back he'll have played mafia
who knows

have a nice day friends

[RadiantCowbells]

I haven't done enough for anything to go either way

I was scumread before even joining the game, what am i supposed to do about that?