Newbie 1976 - Game Over

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hardclaim mason mafia wont shoot me no balls

I unironically like this post.
Don’t think Non Imh is scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think scum is between Saladman, Open wolf and Datisi.

[Datisi]

I get myself and Salad, why Wolfie tho?

[NorwegianboyEE]

He has been mostly coasting. Obviously pays attention to the game, but not saying anything that indicates he is solving. Looks like he's faking it.

[Ph0enix]

Okay, I read what I had missed.

So, I don't understand Norway's sudden change of heart when it comes to his opinion on Datisi. While we currently statistically have a better chance of lynching scum today now that Non's outed, Non is likely to be killed N2 because he's confirmed Town, which, I'm going to be honest, I'm not sure if it's a good trade-off or not. It might turn out to be, I don't know. Here's what I think:

Mason outs:

1) We lynch scum today - Mason gets killed N2 -

D3: 4 Town - 1 scum

2) We mislynch - Mason gets killed N2 -

D3: 3 Town - 2 scum (LyLo)

Mason doesn't out:

1) Mason at L-1; claims; no counterclaim; no lynch; Mason outs; back to the scenario above
2) Mason at L-1; claims; there's a counterclaim; we lynch the Mason; N2 we lose one; D3 we lynch the counterclaim; N3 we lose another one;

D4 - 2 Town - 1 scum (LyLo)

3) Mason at L-1; claims; there's a counterclaim; we lynch the counterclaim; Mason gets killed N2;

D3 - 4 Town - 1 scum

4) Scum at L-1; claims; there's a counterclaim; we lynch the counterclaim; N2 we lose one, D3 we lynch the original claim, N3 we lose another one;

D4 - 2 Town - 1 scum (LyLo)

5) Scum at L-1; claims; there's a counterclaim; we lynch scum; Mason gets killed N2;

D3 - 4 Town - 1 scum

6) We lynch a Townie; Mason gets killed N2 by chance;

D3 - 3 Town - 2 scum (LyLo)

7) We lynch a Townie; Mason is not killed;

D3 - 3 Town (1 confirmed) - 2 scum (LyLo)

Now that I wrote it all down, I still don't know which one was a better idea to begin with. So I'm not sure how everyone seemed to be to certain in defending one side of this argument. I agree I might be missing out on something here, but still.

That being said I really didn't like the fact that Norway went so far as to vote Datisi, only to unvote him a bit later.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Me being super suspicious of Datisi makes sense.
Non Imh is the mason, i townread Naerys and Phoenix. That makes scum one of Saladman, Map Wolf and Datisi.
And if Datisi is scum he’ll be the most threatening player in LYLO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think it might be Saladman/Datisi
I don’t like how Datisi has been weakly "questioning" him all day 1 before coming around to a unnatural "townread" on him.
Meanwhile Saladman made a post earlier claiming "All SE’s are town" which i REALLY didn’t like.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Saladman’s non-reaction to my push on Datisi was very suspicious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lynching Datisi is the best option today.
VOTE: Datisi

[NorwegianboyEE]

Map Wolf was a scumlean for me. But a Salad/Datisi team makes much more sense.

[Ph0enix]

Lynching Datisi is the best option today.
VOTE: Datisi

Anything that's bothering you about her that doesn't have to do with her not wanting the Mason to out?

[NorwegianboyEE]

They’ve been pretty buddy buddy all the days. Take a look at their interractions and ISO’s

[Ph0enix]

Saladman’s non-reaction to my push on Datisi was very suspicious.

That's a valid point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also the fact that i’m alive proves mafia didn’t see me as a threat. No doubt because Datisi thought she had me pocketed. So they killed much more inactive slot Kanna instead.
Anyway, bit of a moot point, since this is purely an argument that makes sense from my POV only.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Phoenix, may i interest you in a Datisi lynch today?

[NorwegianboyEE]

All SEs are Town
Phoenix is town
GBJ and Non are scum
Rest is null

This post is really scummy imo. Especially with the knowledge given by the flips today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

SCUM IS DATISI AND SALADMAN. I REPEAT, SCUM IS DATISI AND SALADMAN.

[Ph0enix]

Phoenix, may i interest you in a Datisi lynch today?

As of now, no. I would like to hear what Salad has to say about the question Datisi asked him in 495. I will also have to reread again, I suppose.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Guys, that's 3 people on D1, doesn't anyone want to address my concerns so that I can narrow it down :/

Ok
Salad often acts like this as town
And nitpicking "contradictions" like those generally come from town more often than scum
I don't want to hang him today

Ok 2 people on D1 there we go

Incriminating evidence #1^

[NorwegianboyEE]

If only it was that simple.

...ok

Saladboi when you come here next can you townspew a little bit so we can go back to actually lynching scum tyty

Incriminating evidence #2^

[Datisi]

Now that I wrote it all down, I still don't know which one was a better idea to begin with. So I'm not sure how everyone seemed to be to certain in defending one side of this argument. I agree I might be missing out on something here, but still.

Look at how many cases there are in which scum and Mason cc each other. Trading a PR for scum is always +town. Meanwhile, if the Mason claims unprompted with no cc, they just die.

[Datisi]

And if Datisi is scum he’ll be the most threatening player in LYLO.

owo

I think it might be Saladman/Datisi
I don’t like how Datisi has been weakly "questioning" him all day 1 before coming around to a unnatural "townread" on him.
Meanwhile Saladman made a post earlier claiming "All SE’s are town" which i REALLY didn’t like.

You don't like that I have a townread on a player that you don't understand? The very same thing can be said about you and Naeyrs imo.
And what did you REALLY not like that? What's the difference than saying "me/Datisi/Norway" are Town?

Saladman’s non-reaction to my push on Datisi was very suspicious.

Salad had a non-reaction to pretty much everything that happened yesterday.

Also the fact that i’m alive proves mafia didn’t see me as a threat. No doubt because Datisi thought she had me pocketed. So they killed much more inactive slot Kanna instead.
Anyway,

bit of a moot point

, since this is purely an argument that makes sense from my POV only.

Yes.

[Datisi]

Norway, imagine a world in which I'm a Townie. Who's scum then?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Salad and Map i’m guessing.

[Datisi]

Can you talk me through you Naerys TR?