Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[pisskop]

VOTE: nacl

I don't think heck survives the game, tbfrank.

[Amrun]

If Pine's just pushing an easy mislynch, why wouldn't he push me harder earlier? Second, why would he need an out?

I'm not a fan of this desperate effort to save Hectic.

When have you ever categorized yourself as an easy mislynch?

Pine’s too good to go after just anyone anyway - I should have said a VIABLE mislynch.

[Amrun]

Ok with NaCl wagon too.

[Hectic]

Just FYI Eddie, I'm not scumreading you for any reasons other than you outing yourself and pops' logic on you trying to be right and prove a point by doing something anti-town is scum-indicative. Wouldn't call a scumlean tunnelling.

[Hectic]

I'll be back in a bit. Need to ISO NaCl to see what this fuss is all about.

[Amrun]

Just FYI Eddie, I'm not scumreading you for any reasons other than you outing yourself and pops' logic on you trying to be right and prove a point by doing something anti-town is scum-indicative. Wouldn't call a scumlean tunnelling.

Do you townread pops?

[popsofctown]

This is a bad wagon with a bad comp. it stinks.

Hmm

Pine why does two votes on me suggest hectic scum?

It doesn’t on its own. It’s evidence of counterwagoning.

VOTE: NaCl

VOTE: nacl

VOTE: nacl

I don't think heck survives the game, tbfrank.

Ok with NaCl wagon too.

I don't think Amrun is town in this game of mafia

[Nancy Drew 39]

If Pine's just pushing an easy mislynch, why wouldn't he push me harder earlier? Second, why would he need an out?

I'm not a fan of this desperate effort to save Hectic.

Why would he be pushing you? He was initially pushing Krazy, me and Hectic.

[bob3141]

This is a bad wagon with a bad comp. it stinks.

Hmm

Pine why does two votes on me suggest hectic scum?

It doesn’t on its own. It’s evidence of counterwagoning.

VOTE: NaCl

VOTE: nacl

VOTE: nacl

I don't think heck survives the game, tbfrank.

Ok with NaCl wagon too.

I don't think Amrun is town in this game of mafia

Pops what do you think of the nacl wagon and the wagon that armum has started to push, pine.


Also to armum. Why are you ok with nacl wagon even though 3 of the players from a wagon you said had bad composition are on it. Plus one you are currently voting for.

Apart from pine who on that hectic wagon in your view was the bad comp.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Could you explain the meta feature you two are chatting about, this went over my head

He's talking about the possibility of a Krazy/NaCl/Hectic team wagoning Oka to save Hectic. Which is something that would be super obvious, except that site meta might let them get away with it because "they wouldn't be so obvious."

Krazy is never scum here. I really don’t think Naci is either.

[popsofctown]

Bob would you vote Amrun with me?

I still think Eddie is the correct day 1 lynch on this game thread but only Hectic believes in me.

I don't think there's any subset Amrun can come up with that doesn't make this really ugly for her. And she's repeatedly posted an implausibly strong scumread on my slot, yet my being offwagon wasn't enough to keep her from disliking Hecticwagon's "comp".

[Nancy Drew 39]

This is a bad wagon with a bad comp. it stinks.

Hmm

Pine why does two votes on me suggest hectic scum?

It doesn’t on its own. It’s evidence of counterwagoning.

VOTE: NaCl

VOTE: nacl

VOTE: nacl

I don't think heck survives the game, tbfrank.

Ok with NaCl wagon too.

I don't think Amrun is town in this game of mafia

I don’t agree with her Naci read why does that make her scum?

[Something_Smart]

my being offwagon wasn't enough to keep her from disliking Hecticwagon's "comp".

._.

[bob3141]

I mean, look at that scummy as fuck wagon on OkaPoka. I maintain that {Krazy, NaCl, Hectic} is an entirely plausible team

Isn't that a little too transparent for a day 1 counterwagon if we were all scum? Also, why would my hypothetical partners push OkaPoka who's been generally town imo and is push harder to actually push?

I could see Hectic and NaCl but not all three. The wagon would be overloaded.

I'd change to Hectic, Dr. D, and NaCl.

Seems your very eager to go with the flow. The hectic wagon breaks up and two of them move to nacl. And all of sudden nacl is in your scum list.

Seems you start scum reading a player as soon as 2-3 other players start doing so and not before

[Nancy Drew 39]

Bob would you vote Amrun with me?

I still think Eddie is the correct day 1 lynch on this game thread but only Hectic believes in me.

I don't think there's any subset Amrun can come up with that doesn't make this really ugly for her. And she's repeatedly posted an implausibly strong scumread on my slot, yet my being offwagon wasn't enough to keep her from disliking Hecticwagon's "comp".

@Hectic, why are you sr Eddie? Do you think he was pocketing you?

[Amrun]

Bob would you vote Amrun with me?

I still think Eddie is the correct day 1 lynch on this game thread but only Hectic believes in me.

I don't think there's any subset Amrun can come up with that doesn't make this really ugly for her. And she's repeatedly posted an implausibly strong scumread on my slot, yet my being offwagon wasn't enough to keep her from disliking Hecticwagon's "comp".

Still don’t like your slot. It’s still my preferred lynch.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I mean, look at that scummy as fuck wagon on OkaPoka. I maintain that {Krazy, NaCl, Hectic} is an entirely plausible team

Isn't that a little too transparent for a day 1 counterwagon if we were all scum? Also, why would my hypothetical partners push OkaPoka who's been generally town imo and is push harder to actually push?

I could see Hectic and NaCl but not all three. The wagon would be overloaded.

I'd change to Hectic, Dr. D, and NaCl.

Seems your very eager to go with the flow. The hectic wagon breaks up and two of them move to nacl. And all of sudden nacl is in your scum list.

Seems you start scum reading a player as soon as 2-3 other players start doing so and not before

I think bob might be town.

[Pine]

He’s not providing content.

So that's your real issue, and memeing has nothing to do with it.

Why did you mention memeing as though you thought it was a problem?

Stop being reductive. I can have more than one issue with him

[OkaPoka]

Amrun aren't you voting pine

[Pine]

And memeing IS a problem. It’s counterproductive as Town and often used as cover for low content by scum

[bob3141]

I like the idea of Hectic v pops wagons.

titus and see you still have not answer my question related to this.


Also an additional point. Why would you push a theory of 2 counter wagons. Hectic and pops when pops at the timr only had single vote. I wouldnt call one person a wagon. With that same logic you coudl push teh idea of hectic beign counter by maybe half dozne different wagons. Or how you define a wagon as it looks, single votes.

VOTE: titus

[popsofctown]

Amrun aren't you voting pine

She's scum
VOTE: Amrun

[Amrun]

I had a previously espoused scum read on NaCl, which still stands. If I preferred the wagon over Pine/pops, I’d have gone there. Part of the reason I’m NOT voting there is similar comp. I just can’t hate the wagon when it is on someone I don’t mind wagoning. At least so far.

I have a pretty strong TR on pisskop, for starters, so he was never the issue on the wagon for me. I don’t think skitter shares that view, maybe? Can’t remember.

[Hectic]

@Amrun: I do townread Pops. Her reaction to Eddie outing seemed genuine and I agree with her reasoning on that scumread. Also, her not engaging Eddie because she's of the belief neighbourhoods are where scum pocket townies is town-indicative. If she's of that belief, scum!her should be posting and pocketing Eddie there rather than passing up that opportunity.

[Pine]

Xtoxm is particularly against lynching Hectic, thinks he’s a mislynch. He’s Townreading Amrun, S_S, Hectic, Pops, and “probably” Nancy

PE: Site meta has gotten to the point where scum can pretty easily get away with being transparent for exactly that reason.

Okay. Say we tabled your lynch for now, Hectic. Who should we be voting and why?

Could you address my reasons I have for scumreading you? You've just ignored them the whole game.

Other than you, I dislike Titus, DDL, and Eddie off the top of my head. Let me ISO some more and I'll get back to you with an answer.

Afaik you don’t have any reasons beyond OMGUS