I would caution everyone against getting too deep into what can be interpreted as ongoing game discussion by discussing this too substantively in public.In post 322, Donempire wrote: Yeah i also agree that the punishment to both the game and elements was too severe for something as common as that, s warning should have sufficed but im not a mod. Even if elements did it intentionally to clear his name thats bad play rather than rulebreaking demeanor.
Consider: being the change you wish to see. My homie thinks you're just null, by the way, which is interesting to me!In post 272, Cephrir wrote:you guys this game is so boring.
Is "everyone else can see that" in reference to finding Auro scummy?In post 315, Cephrir wrote: I answer questions. I just don't feel the need to engage with your or Auro's attacks on me because they're weak, I don't think there's any point in me wasting my time trying to change your minds (especially considering that Auro is scum) and I believe everyone else can see that.
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I'm townleaning Hopkirk at this point. My thought on his tone reads hasn't really changed. The main aspect from him that I think fits better from a town mindset is that it seems like he thinks he's doing important things that are worth weighing in on, and that avoiding those things may be advantageous to scum. I don't think it's over-the-top, and I think it shows self-confidence that what he's doing should be conversation starters/worthy of analysis. Hopkirk seems to
want
attention and have an eye out for people who don't know what to do with him - it's certainly more natural to have that perspective on the game state as town, I think.Mmk. I'm putting a pin in this specifically in this until he actually exists (or until I get bored of him not).In post 277, Dunnstral wrote:
I think 91 is more likely to be a faked post because of 98, and that his omgus behavior when he seems to acknowledge that people don't get him and kill him doesn't really make sense to me
I don't like the strawman here, but your follow-up on it in #300 is ok.In post 283, Dunnstral wrote:You've never seen town ask other people questions about other peoples scumread on themself?
Joan naked voted and you're pulling this out of that. Are you implying that her posting any kind of content alongside a second vote on a wagon would beIn post 302, Dunnstral wrote:Not trying to impede the gobble wagon by arguing semantics or complaining about the game = towny
impeding
it?And I guess to speak to my overall read here: I find Dunnstral's play to be measured and reasonable, with his responses to my poking holding up to scrutiny. I'm still looking for something that reads to me as "town" as opposed to "reasonable," though.
The main notable thing to me at this point with NSG is that she left her random vote on someone in her townbloc while implying she had a real scumread. It's passive at best.In post 321, Auro wrote:Yeah, that alone is a reason I'd avoid lynching her D1. She isIn post 319, Hopkirk wrote:I haven't played with North in a while but I think I heard somewhere she's strong town. Is that why you'd avoiding lynching there, or is it because you think she's easier to sort later, or something else?
Think you said FF was strong town (though may be twisting your phrasing here when you just meant like 'active') so is there a difference there?
Didn't NSG's lack of effort come after the FF exchange? Her early posts didn't really specify anything of that sort.alsoeasier to sort after some gameplay, I guess (although I have lost to scum!NSG before).
Also, I feel that the nature of Team Mafia and the game setup might make it easier to read her as well.
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which I did, and it's hardly an "extended" conversation. You'll notice I backed off from pushing Dunn right away. I think my main problem with Auro at this point is that the way he responds to pressure tends to give me "caught for the wrong reasons" vibes. Initially with the "I always wagon" bit...there are townier and scummier ways
of
doing that, and saying you tend to do that implies he should also be doing it as scum. Not necessarily a bad thing to ask about the reasoning for, but it did give me the aforementioned vibe. I don't think he really understood what I was asking regarding my follow-up to his read on cancel food related to this, uhhh, but I can see the strength of the read potentially be trying to placate them. I thought his handling of the Dongempire push was odd along similar lines, and that him switching off it so soon felt a little forced to not look like he's holding onto OMGUS. I now see he's since claimed him going in on it so hard was actually a test. I'm going to have to mull over how that shifts it. "Why didn't you ask me if my read changed" is...I'm again not a fan, I didn't see anything in Auro's posts that implied the needle had moved there. (Am I expected to constantly ask him if his reads changed?)
