Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

lol yes nsg is annoyed with me that's clearly it we did it

[MathBlade]

Sometimes you have had better reads.

That however is gamblers fallacy. Past success or failure at reads has no bearing on what alignment you have this game.

Why is it whenever I try to read you you insult me as either alignment instead of letting me get feedback from others?

If I am wrong they can tell me I move on.

[RadiantCowbells]

Math I'm not insulting you

I'm just stating things that are true.

[MathBlade]

Math I'm not insulting you

I'm just stating things that are true.

Not going down that rabbit hole.

I am not bickering with you for pages.

Just gonna wait for RCE to get back if he would wagon you.

[RadiantCowbells]

If you try to push on me you stop getting nice teamwork RC and we all get the dictator seal.

[RCEnigma]

It feels really gross to have a Poe of all lurking slots but like TW is a team townread (I think his recent posting is also probably town indicative.)

Math is a team townread (I'm not a fan of the buddying tone but it's also not only directed at me so it could be posting style I'm disagreeing with)

Made my bed with the Tris read and RC pushing there makes me double down so not voting there.

I want to get into my skitter trajectory but it will make the most sense to Skitter so I'll wait on that.

RC I planned on largely ignoring but has a fair amount of scum equity. He's not a lynch today because of the claim (scummy imo) and if he does night 1 I'll eat my hat.

There just aren't a lot of suspects left in the pool.

My gut says to wagon RC but at the same time I realize how completely antitown that is.

What do you and your teammates think of this?

Nah we aren't wagoning RC. Admittedly FL is the only person that gave an RC read. I had agreed it was likely though.

[RadiantCowbells]

And... you care about flavor leads read on me... why?

[RCEnigma]

That's rhetorical I'm assuming.

[MathBlade]

That's rhetorical I'm assuming.

Okay let’s assume we aren’t wagoning RC. Who would RC be scum with? How would you go about sorting RC without wagoning him?

[RadiantCowbells]

lynching my scumreads and then lynching me if i flip 2 town in a row.

[the worst]

He is a tasty leaf.

I'm glad we can have a conversation about RC scum equity without feeling the need to wagon him unnecessarily or ignoring his reads & contributions.

RC if you go dictator mode in response to being scumread I'll be advocating to policy lynch you.

I'm not one for policy lynches and I don't think policy lynching you as a rule is even close to smart. But you're kinda already spamming so like.... as much as I don't like doing things I find generally stupid, I'm feeling a little inflexible this gsme.

[teacher]

who on your team thinks i'm town?

OFrhz, but on a limited skim. Volpe is less so, but still had some pings that way.

[RadiantCowbells]

OK, policy lynch me then.

[teacher]

is there an auto-vc skimmer or bot that scrapes threads here?

[the worst]

please say hi to your team from me teacher. I really like that team.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not sure what you want me to say to that. I'm sick of feeling like I have to jump through conflicting hoops to make everyone in this game happy.

[the worst]

is there an auto-vc skimmer or bot that scrapes threads here?

one made by the lovely Mathblade actually! But it needs control data in post#0 which we don't have here.

[the worst]

I'm not sure what you want me to say to that. I'm sick of feeling like I have to jump through conflicting hoops to make everyone in this game happy.

just an fyi

I don't think you enjoy being dictator seal either tbh you always sound sad when you have to boss people around

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I'm being scumread in the 1st place for failure to be in autocrat mode. If you're going to PL me for trying to not get scumread, I don't get it.

just an fyi

I don't think you enjoy being dictator seal either tbh you always sound sad when you have to boss people around

I enjoy being scumread significantly less and if no one is treating me with the slightest respect or consideration when I'm not in dictator mode anyway, I see no point in sacrificing win equity.

[teacher]

no one is treating me with the slightest respect or consideration when I'm not in dictator mode

Ummm... I think a number of people have praised you for your current mode? I know I have. Maybe you feel like you should get be getting more, but I think this is actually making the game more readable (in all senses) than other possibilities.

[RadiantCowbells]

No reasons have been presented. Scumreads on me are fundamentally "well hes RC so even if hes doing super towny things he can still be scum."
That's not a productive or useful discussion, no one is bringing up reasons to scumread me or how anything I do has town motivation, it's just flat out "well hes RC!!"
you're acting like it's some kind of productive discussion that the game needed to have that isn't available normally when its' just stupid

[RadiantCowbells]

1) True but most is spam
2) False again most posting is spam. You haven’t done any pushes and I have had to remind you where your vote is.
3) That’s not how mafia works. Otherwise scum just put up any read wall “whoops can’t lynch them”
4) You’ve claimed investigative. You’ve also claimed impossible results in that it’s a tenant of MafiaScum D1 results don’t happen.
5) I am not trying to lynch you. I am debating wagoning you for reads and if you react poorly you’d be scum,

It is not negative town equity to consider anyone scum.

NSG not reading posts is NAI or maybe she’s annoyed with you or doesn’t want to fake reads. Lots of reasons.

like this is the cloest thing to ~reasons~ but
the general assertion that i'm spammy is not true. i guarantee i've made less than 40 fluffposts this game and i've had tons of read progressions
the idea that scum me needs to be reminded of where my votes is is hilariously out of touch with reality
no, i didn't claim impossible results, i said that implo had two guns aka muscles
you don't know what a poor vs not poor reaction is from me

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm not sure how you think it's reasonable to expect me to treat the current "discussion of me being scum" with anything besides bottomless contempt.

[MathBlade]

is there an auto-vc skimmer or bot that scrapes threads here?

one made by the lovely Mathblade actually! But it needs control data in post#0 which we don't have here.

There is however while it is public people complained when I missed team mafia last year or two ago providing it was townsided. Between that and AWS being too expensive I released a personal PC version in the forums. I am at work so can’t go over it atm. It only works off public stuff and isn’t 100% perfect but kinda close. I haven’t set it up for this game even.

[RadiantCowbells]

i think i'm just getting walked all over this game in terms of both play and in terms of my feelings and i can't make people like me but i can make scum get lynched at least.