Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Titus]

Pine was pushing way too hard: first Krazy/me, then Hectic and when Piss and me jumped off, Pine wanted to ram through which is obviously now a Hectic mislynch.

And the jump to NaCi is hella gross. I believe there’s one scum on that wagon and I don’t think it’s you.

I object to this narrative. Pine hasn't been pushing anything too hard. He was the only one who pressured my reaction on the best plan being rejected, which suggested an attempt to sort me. He didn't push me too hard.

Krazy might be scum.
You think a feather pushes you too hard.
Hectic is scum, more likely than not.

NaCl is highly likely scum with Hectic.

Hectic DDL NaCl contains at least 2 scum, if not all three. If I am wrong on one, it's pops most likely.

[Titus]

Jeez, Nancy, I was insinuating it was a townslip, not a scum one...

As in, you thought there were 2 scum total in the game rather than 3? Or did I misinterpret that post?

No, I did think there was only 2. Okay, you may be town. I don’t think scum!you would point that out.

@Titus, why does scum!Hectic make this post?

Towncred, agency capture, spam, buddying, any other creative reason while I fart? A million reasons. Being setup aware is not AI in an open.

[Titus]

There's also theatre but that requires me listening to Math and Hectuc flipping scum first

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Titus, what does scum!Hectic get out of saying I townslipped? Had he done it last night, I’d be way more suspicious but today? seems counterproductive to a scum wincon.

[Titus]

@Titus, what does scum!Hectic get out of saying I townslipped? Had he done it last night, I’d be way more suspicious but today? seems counterproductive to a scum wincon.

Agency capture is not counter productive.
Buddying is not counter productive


If he's scum, you're not voting for him. That's proscum.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Jeez, Nancy, I was insinuating it was a townslip, not a scum one...

As in, you thought there were 2 scum total in the game rather than 3? Or did I misinterpret that post?

No, I did think there was only 2. Okay, you may be town. I don’t think scum!you would point that out.

@Titus, why does scum!Hectic make this post?

Towncred, agency capture, spam, buddying, any other creative reason while I fart? A million reasons. Being setup aware is not AI in an open.

That isn’t what I asked. By saying I townslipped, he’s in essence townlocked me. Like how are you not seeing this?

[Titus]

Jeez, Nancy, I was insinuating it was a townslip, not a scum one...

As in, you thought there were 2 scum total in the game rather than 3? Or did I misinterpret that post?

No, I did think there was only 2. Okay, you may be town. I don’t think scum!you would point that out.

@Titus, why does scum!Hectic make this post?

Towncred, agency capture, spam, buddying, any other creative reason while I fart? A million reasons. Being setup aware is not AI in an open.

That isn’t what I asked. By saying I townslipped, he’s in essence townlocked me. Like how are you not seeing this?

Townlocks break when convenient. I just take it as hard town.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Titus, what does scum!Hectic get out of saying I townslipped? Had he done it last night, I’d be way more suspicious but today? seems counterproductive to a scum wincon.

Agency capture is not counter productive.
Buddying is not counter productive


If he's scum, you're not voting for him. That's proscum.

*Sigh* You’re really not making any sense here. How does it further a scum!Hectic wincon, to townlock me? because that’s exactly what he did when he pointed out I townslipped.

[Titus]

@Titus, what does scum!Hectic get out of saying I townslipped? Had he done it last night, I’d be way more suspicious but today? seems counterproductive to a scum wincon.

Agency capture is not counter productive.
Buddying is not counter productive


If he's scum, you're not voting for him. That's proscum.

*Sigh* You’re really not making any sense here. How does it further a scum!Hectic wincon, to townlock me? because that’s exactly what he did when he pointed out I townslipped.

Because you won't vote scum with him townlocked because he's likely not town.

Instead, you're voting Pine who likely is.

[DrDolittle]

Hectic DDL NaCl contains at least 2 scum, if not all three. If I am wrong on one, it's pops most likely.

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Titus, what does scum!Hectic get out of saying I townslipped? Had he done it last night, I’d be way more suspicious but today? seems counterproductive to a scum wincon.

Agency capture is not counter productive.
Buddying is not counter productive


If he's scum, you're not voting for him. That's proscum.

*Sigh* You’re really not making any sense here. How does it further a scum!Hectic wincon, to townlock me? because that’s exactly what he did when he pointed out I townslipped.

Because you won't vote scum with him townlocked because he's likely not town.

Instead, you're voting Pine who likely is.

Why are you so sure about that? Have you done an extensive metacheck on him? Read his games, he is usually more laidback as town. And tell me, why you’re still so convinced on Hectic scum?

I still don’t see why scum!Hectic points out I townslipped.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Hectic DDL NaCl contains at least 2 scum, if not all three. If I am wrong on one, it's pops most likely.

This.

It is only D1 and no flips. I honestly don’t know how anyone can be that sure on who’s scum here.

[pisskop]

I townslipped, he’s in essence townlocked me

i think its something better slept on. it should be enough he isnt wagoned to infinity?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Auro just told me to sheep Krazy on Pine. Thanks Auro. <3. I’m glad at least one teammate is helping me here.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I townslipped, he’s in essence townlocked me

i think its something better slept on. it should be enough he isnt wagoned to infinity?

I would be way more suspicious had that happened yesterday but I just don’t see the scum motivation in him doing that. Townlocking

anyone

is pretty much suicide if you’re scum. It’s very different from just an obvtown read, which can be changed but you can’t backtrack on claiming someone townslipped.

[OkaPoka]

just like volpe townlocked me in baton pass and then turned on me given the opportunity right

[Nancy Drew 39]

just like volpe townlocked me in baton pass and then turned on me given the opportunity right

Did he actually say you townslipped? Because that’s irrevocable?

[OkaPoka]

no he at one point basically said i was guaranteed town

[OkaPoka]

actually he spent almost the entire game treating me as lock town until uh something very naughty happened

[Nancy Drew 39]

just like volpe townlocked me in baton pass and then turned on me given the opportunity right

Did he actually say you townslipped? Because that’s irrevocable?

Hectic can’t redact this. He can’t later claim I didn’t actually townslip. Saying you townlock someone is different than saying they townslipped. If he ever walks back on that, he’d be essentially scumclaiming.

[pisskop]

Yeah, I probably would be less present if voted less, but people really need to stop associating defensiveness and survivalist nature with being scum, most town don't want to be mislynched just as much as scum don't want to be lynched.

Though, I do have reasons for being less present earlier, because I was V/LA.

This depends on the player though. I have bad case of acting survivalistic and putting more effort in when people start scumreading me.

This is, ftr, where i decided he might not be the best lynch of the day.

[Nancy Drew 39]

no he at one point basically said i was guaranteed town

actually he spent almost the entire game treating me as lock town until uh something very naughty happened

But Hectic can’t take back that he said I townslipped because he’s lockscum if he ever does that.

[OkaPoka]

just like volpe townlocked me in baton pass and then turned on me given the opportunity right

Did he actually say you townslipped? Because that’s irrevocable?

Hectic can’t redact this. He can’t later claim I didn’t actually townslip. Saying you townlock someone is different than saying they townslipped. If he ever walks back on that, he’d be essentially scumclaiming.

"in retrospect nancy faked it"
or
"nancy drew 39 has been killed"
or
"nancy its lylo ive trusted you this entire game you gotta trust me its x"

[pisskop]

But Hectic can’t take back that he said I townslipped because he’s lockscum if he ever does that.

I disagree, however I dont think it speaks for either you or heck's alignment either way.

maybe its better to take this to a maf discussion thread?

[pisskop]

"in retrospect nancy faked it"
or
"nancy drew 39 has been killed"
or
"nancy its lylo ive trusted you this entire game you gotta trust me its x"

"I guess I misread it"
"I was mistaken"
"Despite the earlier posting . . ."