TM2020 | Untrod Tripod Destroys Anime! | Endgame

[PenguinPower]

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mastina (3): Bitmap, Kerset, Chemist1422 Bitmap (2): mastina, jjh927 jjh927 (1): Klick Shadoweh (1): hitogoroshi hitogoroshi (1): Shadoweh Jingle (1): Alisae Gamma Emerald (1): Menalque With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline : (expired on 2020-01-16 20:30:00)

[Chemist1422]

@PP I voted mastina

[Klick]

@PP I also voted jjh

[hitogoroshi]

In contrast, if Bitmap is scum as I assume, that group is incredibly unlikely to contain scum and I would think them all town.

Who

is

scum on Bitmap redflip? I guess you have your Kerset read, but I remember Kerset -> Bitmap having some "you are fools for this push" elements that seemed a little on the nose for scum/scum. Though I'm sneaking on for like five minutes before I leave for work so no time to actually pull up evidence.

*grumbles in annoying town random unvoters*
I've forgotten how much I hate games lasting so long that wagons die b/c people get bored of them.

I told you what was gonna happen with the wagon! you had fair warning!!

Gimme more on ofr. This is now the third time you've intimated she's town, but you've never otherwise talked to her or about her.

@hito: Your latter point about Menalque trying to actively influence the gamestate with his vote/convincing people to join him doesn't do much for me. Probably because in two of the three games I've played semi-recently, Menalque was scum who did this liberally and made it a core part of his strategy. He is acutely aware that playing this way gets him townread.

Would like to read the best example if you have it on hand; it's kinda like mastina in that I have absolutely

zero

intention of walking back these locktowns today but in case we get to paranoia endtimes and I'm alive and you're not, would be nice to have the chance to break out if I'm getting snowed and being kept alive as scumpet.

Let me re-read jjh in more detail tonight. He's in a weird spot where the town stock of the town in general has kinda inflated and I don't like where he went, so he's far down on the list, but without a compelling narrative or anything. So in essence I'm kinda exactly where Klick is (some kind of odd pings, without anything to sink teeth in to) but to me that's kind of a gamey reason to vote, not a good one (because if you have no real theory of what those gut pings are being caused by, it increases the chance you're just firing on style and have only rand% chance of hitting). Especially because I don't know if there's like, a big unactiviated core of people who'd prefer jjh over Shadoweh - and more importantly, if there are, I don't know why and whether I believe em

[Jingle]

The meat of what Hito says makes me think I should be tr-ing Hito but I’m still not tr-ing Hito. I don’t know what that means.

[jjh927]

Also I kinda do feel like this idea that Bitmap has been pushed around is people buying into a bullshit narrative. He's playing the victim but he just isn't here; again- look at that extensive list of discredits against mastina and see how much stacks up the other way

I think I'm confused by how this is persuasive to you. Do you think Bitmap!town would be avoiding antagonising mastina here? I don't.

No I'm saying he was the one pushing Mastina around but a good number of people, yourself included, were acting like he was being bullied

[jjh927]

There's too many floaty generalisations people have made about how Bitmap plays or has played this game that simply aren't true.

[jjh927]

Hey look the title is actually Ant Rod Tripod Destroys Anime now

[Kerset]

There's too many floaty generalisations people have made about how Bitmap plays or has played this game that simply aren't true.

What about generalisations, which where made about mastina?

[jjh927]

Sure I'll bite. What about them? I don't think I've seen anything I need to care about

[jjh927]

You better be able to show me something

[Kerset]

VOTE: mastina

this game lacks spice

You are one of the most passive players around here. Back in 689 you were townreading mastina. Then you moved to scumreading her but you didn't show any progression or effort in solving her.

[Jingle]

Who is tr-ing Kees and why?

[Kerset]

You better be able to show me something

Mostly Alisae

[Kerset]

Who is tr-ing Kees and why?

I do! Kerset is UwU.

[jjh927]

Show me something

[jjh927]

Show me Alisae making a generalisation about Mastina that you think is inaccurate

[jjh927]

As time passes I become more convinced 1108 was a baseless whataboutism

[Kerset]

Show me Alisae making a generalisation about Mastina that you think is inaccurate

Wait you didn't ask for my UwU photos? Ech
I don't know mastina as a player, so i can't tell whenever its generalizations are accurate or not. Still you pull things, which are one-sided and it makes me think that you wanted to pull this rather then throw this out of your awareness.
First things that i can quote, without rereading whole game.

Spoiler:

mastina, can you stop making funny jokes? My team is dying of laughter in the discord channels.

Also wow, you've completely neglected the game to stroke the e-peen of other players while the rest of us are actually trying to solve this game. You and your team are honestly a true inspiration of what it's like to not be pro-town in this game.

Also, please stop stroking hito's ego. He has scum equity that a lot of players/teams have recognized and yet you completely ignore.

Also, please don't infer that I need coaching as scum. Scum is not hard. Town is much harder to play as and I'm leveraging my team to actually work and solve this game unlike you who wants to make a popularity list.

don't get into this fight with mastina
- its unproductive
- you're wasting your energy
- thread health goes down
- its extremely petty

Do this but just for my slot

You're in luck--I'm in the same mindset I was when I listed you as a townread!

That is to say, rather notably tired.

This mindset isn't the most productive to explaining things but it's the only mindset I can be in to explain the read since it was a read born of this mindset.

Basically I didn't intentionally have you as deliberately-unsorted, but I noticed that I wasn't making any effort to really sort you.
In my bout of tiredness, when catching up on the game and reading your posts around that time and the ones from shortly before then that were fresh on mind even though I had read them, I basically liked what I was seeing you do in spite of having the knowledge that I probably shouldn't but the gut-townread from what I was seeing was still there all the same.

Your contributions to this game just look town, mostly. Are they? Ehhh...probably not, it wouldn't surprise me if the people who actually know how to read you well would say you've done nothing that is strongly alignment indicative. And not gonna lie some of your earlier posting did look suspicious but in the very-brief "I am scumreading everyone in this game" sort of way where I realize I'm basically not townreading anyone and force a reset of standards to 'okay reset them to null then just work from there'. But the posting around the time I posted the townread on you was posting that I liked the mindset behind of as being something that it looked like it was genuinely trying to solve the game in.

Earlier I thought it was weird that u didn’t scumread me since u always do when we’re both town.
Now I’m absolutely 100% convinced
I don’t think u have a read on me at all
I think u just know I’m town because r scum
VOTE: mastina

[Kerset]

If you look at hito, he was able to apply his methods to both Mena and Shadow, because he is unsure about alignments and check every person with them. When jjh was analyzing each person around here, he picked person and then found faulty.

[jjh927]

Okay now what was it about those supposed generalisations did you think I needed to care about?

[jjh927]

And how was whatever point you were trying to make relevant to me talking about Bitmap

[Kerset]

Self-reflections that maybe your side is also wrong in the way other is.

[jjh927]

Right so it 100% was whataboutism

And it looks pretty baseless too

[jjh927]

1122 keeps getting worse every time I read it tbh