Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[MathBlade]

And you do know I was always planning on unvoting you if I became sure you were town right?

Do I have to say that?

That is not how you presented it, no

Don’t forget he voteplanted me despite not scumreading me.

Pedit it so is

[RadiantCowbells]

Yes because these are two different situations and playersets.

I get really salty under pressure and do things like that.

Duckling was in a cold low emotive state and isn't subject to the same volatility

[skitter30]

This probably isnt a convo i want to have rn but that is asinine, sorry

[RadiantCowbells]

Math you don't play town

You play how can I do my absolute best to screw with RadiantCowbells

You only think I policy lynched you this game because you'd do the same thing to me: I had my own game to play and I thought you were scum and I unvoted you when I wasn't thinking you were scum and my trajectory really isn't hard to follow.

[RadiantCowbells]

You may think it's asinine and I prolly can't convince you today but I'm right.

[skitter30]

Rc you're basically saying that it's ok for you to force pls on either people but if anyone suggest it on you it's a reason for you to sr them

[RadiantCowbells]

Like you keep insisting I fakeclaimed

No, I claimed Implosion had two guns. Like muscles. It was a joke that Ari got and other people got but you keep citing it as me playing antitown. Are you really too dense to tell that when I make a claim about the game mod it isn't serious?

[RadiantCowbells]

Rc you're basically saying that it's ok for you to force pls on either people but if anyone suggest it on you it's a reason for you to sr them

I'm saying that it is a fact

Call me a hypocrite if you want to

That certain things are a scumtell for certain people

And just because I did something as town doesn't mean it's a towntell for other people.

For example if most people have a long stretch in the midgame like I did where I was uninterested in voting or pushing wagons: that's a scumtell. It is not a scumtell for me and is probably the exact opposite.

This isn't a game of fairness or whatever, the simple fact is people are different and you can read different people off of different things and it's not a question of hypocrisy in the sense that you're seeing it as, things just are the way they are and Duck doesn't do that as town

[MathBlade]

Like you keep insisting I fakeclaimed

No, I claimed Implosion had two guns. Like muscles. It was a joke that Ari got and other people got but you keep citing it as me playing antitown. Are you really too dense to tell that when I make a claim about the game mod it isn't serious?

Yes.

You claimed investigative and that’s why you shouldn’t be lynched.

That is the only claim I can find.

So am I really so dense?

[RadiantCowbells]

No, I claimed investigative to explain to Skitter why I made a set of actions in the game. It had nothing to do with preventing my own lynch because my lynch has never been something that was remotely likely to happen.

[RadiantCowbells]

Wait so I don't have a result on D1? Crazy almost like that's how mechanics work.

[RadiantCowbells]

Skitter, can you find 1 example of Duck bringing up or pushing a Pl on literally anyone? Can we start there?

[skitter30]

Yeah it's ridiculously hypocritical if you're town here
And it makes me think pl'ing me is something you would try to do as scum if you're sr'ing someone else for doing that

[skitter30]

I dont have a catalogue of all of his games in my head but in all the games that i'm aware of i dont remember him doing that as either alignment

[RadiantCowbells]

Thing is

Hypocrite implies a level of moral judgement

I simply think that what I do as scum is not equal to what other people would do as scum necessarily.

Yeah sure I could conceivably push a policy lynch as scum and I fact I have pushed a policy lynch as scum on FL when he secret alted and joined my game after I asked him following multiple games to never join my games against and he kept doing it. But that's also not even remotely the situation here?

[RadiantCowbells]

I dont have a catalogue of all of his games in my head but in all the games that i'm aware of i dont remember him doing that as either alignment

And can you see why it would make a lot of sense as a line of play as scum where I'm progressively townlocking more and more townies and preventing mislynches ie Bella and he wants to either deter me from taking a bigger role or to simply set me off into a rage so people stop taking me seriously?

Why do that as town?

[skitter30]

I'm not entirely sure this is a convo i can have without getting pissed again

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok

I don't want to set you off.

Just remember this after I'm dead.

[skitter30]

But to summarize: i dont think most people weaponize toxicity, even as scum

And it makes me feel better to try not to ascribe motivations like that to people so i just dont really want to weigh that data point

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean

It could be the other option that by preventing me from taking a bigger role there are several mislynches (ico Bella) that are much easier to obtain

One of which he's currently voting btw

And I think Duck generally knows better than to vote an overlapping NSG RC tlwnread tbh

[RadiantCowbells]

Like he didn't try to policy lynch me when I didn't back down
He just *sigh*ed
So maybe he just wanted to shut me up without picking that fight.

Whatever.

[RadiantCowbells]

Sorry *ugh*Ed but yeah.

I'm fine with my current vote.

[RadiantCowbells]

If he was Ruru he'd have ugged instead.

[RadiantCowbells]

I should just case him off of bad associatives tbh

Instead of all this stuff that honestly isn't going to convince anyone

[Bellaphant]

Bad rc, I stopped being mislynch bait today.

Ceph says Ari is scum (klick agrees), that plum is just good at talking so I should be more cautious there, that math is 'crazy pants and unreadable' (I'm leaving this til like, day three, lol) and that ico is town BC he's bad at scum and it would've been obv by now.