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[Nicholai]

got anything to add wimpy? you've got an unused vote there (loving the hat btw, really goes well with the tie)

[Wimpy]

nope nothing to add. can't quite figure out who i want to vote yet.

[Wimpy]

I don't really like Sal's answer to my question and kind of irritated nicholai ignored mine. neither of these are good enough reason to vote.

[Kanna]

UNVOTE: Checked fuzzy’s meta and think I was too quick to judge

[Gjt]

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

[Nicholai]

VOTE: Salamence his ISO is sludgy

(note this is not an OMGUS, i actually intuitively townread people who vote me by default)

What does sludgy mean in this context?

i missed this, sludgy means coasting without looking like he cares for solving if i had to guess now what i was thinking without ISOing him again

[Wimpy]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

[Wimpy]

Ok thanks

[Nicholai]

oh yeah also because i don like his vote on me and calling me a fake tryhard, though maybe i'm subjectively OMGUSing him there

I think people think im maf because I called fuzzy town lol

why would you come to this conclusion?

[Nicholai]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

[Nicholai]

Gjt my guy, that's fair and power to you for playing like that, but don't be afraid to drop in those reads when you have them, like the two individuals you're leaning town for.

[Kanna]

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

It’s up to you, but I would recommend skimming through one or two past games for someone you’re gonna seriously vote cause it makes a big difference. For example, I thought fuzzy’s earlier posts were off tonally(?) + the self vote felt weird but meta tells me it isn’t off for him. It doesn’t mean he’s not scum but it does mean those things aren’t scum indicative for him if that makes sense

[Wimpy]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

I don't really know if anyone has analyzed the data but this game - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81277 ended up being a town loss.

I have played others where lylo could have gone either way.

[Kanna]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

what? Can’t you only find associatives if you lynch scum though?

[Wimpy]

skimming other games really isn't that effective a strategy. That's like less reliable than actually having meta which isn't a good strategy either.

[bob3141]

just lost a post. Pressed submit and its no where to be seen

[bob3141]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

I don't really know if anyone has analyzed the data but this game - https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81277 ended up being a town loss.

I have played others where lylo could have gone either way.

With quick skim of the vote counts. Eve should never of been lynched. 90% of vote day one lynches always have one scum. The only one through my trawling of old games when i joined I only found one with out any scum. And that was one of fl scum games.

The fact a scum was lynched day one should of been seen as suspect. As it doesnt happen unless the scum partner has bussed that player

[bob3141]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

I actualy dont get why if your town, that you woudl think this. As scum lynchs are always preferable to mislynches. Especially day one scum lynches as the scum are put on the back foot very early. If as town we lynch one of their number

[Nicholai]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

i've heard that's true because associatives are king, but i doubt lynching scum day 1 has a lower win rate than lynching scum day 2

or does it?

what? Can’t you only find associatives if you lynch scum though?

yeah, but the logic is that you have more associatives to work with if scum is lynched later. this only really applies to games where there's only 2 scum.

[Nicholai]

Bob, i've been wondering this for a while but what is that in your profile picture? is it a football club badge, a Latin Crest from the Roman empire, a dark tunnel, or a very steep double slide? please, i need to know

[Wimpy]

Mislynch day 1 is actually preferable

I actualy dont get why if your town, that you woudl think this. As scum lynchs are always preferable to mislynches. Especially day one scum lynches as the scum are put on the back foot very early. If as town we lynch one of their number

Just sort of talked about why so I don’t see why you’d post it considering you did just read what my thought process was.

[bob3141]

Bob, i've been wondering this for a while but what is that in your profile picture? is it a football club badge, a Latin Crest from the Roman empire, a dark tunnel, or a very steep double slide? please, i need to know

Its a crest from a book. I needed an avatar so just took one from the discworld.

the words mean "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

[Nicholai]

Bob, i've been wondering this for a while but what is that in your profile picture? is it a football club badge, a Latin Crest from the Roman empire, a dark tunnel, or a very steep double slide? please, i need to know

Its a crest from a book. I needed an avatar so just took one from the discworld.

the words mean "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

interesting, that's oddly fitting for you

[Nicholai]

okay, I've talked enough so i'll start lurking now and occasionally pop in to opportunisticly wagon hop, but otherwise, i'll let you guys fight it out while i watch gleefully from the sidelines

note i am not scum and this is just my process for finding scum. have a good day everyone

[bob3141]

I will purely be judging everyone on their actions on this game because I'm too lazy nor have the time to go check up on the history of everyone. Maybe its something I can pick up after a few more games here.

I will probably be playing in a way which you won't like and will observe a lot more before posting as a lot of what I see is basing current posts from previous games.

From what I've seen if Nicolai is Town probably won't last long because from experience Scum tend to hate active Townies. Chances are we will mislynch D1 unless someone seriously slips which is why scum often stay quiet D1 (not helping myself there) they'll spread their votes across Town. Not sure how many you usually get on a team here, but one I expect to vote/push one of their team mates. A lot of this phase is keeping track of the votes and who people chop and change too.

I don't have any strong leads yet, maybe a couple now leaning a little towards Town, but as said previously in my mind you are all Scum until you have convinced me otherwise

It’s up to you, but I would recommend skimming through one or two past games for someone you’re gonna seriously vote cause it makes a big difference. For example, I thought fuzzy’s earlier posts were off tonally(?) + the self vote felt weird but meta tells me it isn’t off for him. It doesn’t mean he’s not scum but it does mean those things aren’t scum indicative for him if that makes sense

I find that very hard to do. You can get meta feel from players you played with before but its very hard I find to get a feel of player from their past games. If you have no experience with them before. In one of my earlier games i was only able to make my first meta scum read as I had played in 4 games where that player had been town. So could tell the difference in how he was playing.