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Post Post #1750 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:31 pm

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In post 1747, RCEnigma wrote:Sure, is your Bella scumread independent of RC or because of RC?
Both and neither.

Bella could be scum without RC but if Bella is scum it’s more likely with RC

I can’t find a third for that case so it’s sorta just lingering. Like she’s in my pool but I don’t have a working team with her
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Post Post #1751 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:40 pm

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In post 1093, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 772, tris wrote:why is xtoxm still saying anything on page 20?
what precisely are you asking here, Tris?
oops, that was supposed to be "why is xtoxm still
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which still applies on page 44
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Post Post #1752 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:23 pm

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Spoiler: dormouse diorama
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Vote Count 1.13
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(4): Flopz, RadiantCowbells, skitter30, MathBlade
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Post Post #1753 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:49 pm

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loving the flavour, @implo
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Post Post #1754 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:40 pm

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In post 1753, Iconeum wrote:loving the flavour, @implo
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Post Post #1755 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:48 pm

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(i literally spent 10 minutes looking for a mouse in that giraffe picture)
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Post Post #1756 (ISO) » Wed Jan 08, 2020 11:55 pm

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dude I spent like half a minute as well lmfao
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Post Post #1757 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:04 am

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When/if you guys drive a dumb mislynch because you somehow think that me/TW is still up in the air

That his repeated avoidance of committing to any sort of read on Ari after being called out as his partner is town

That his calling me out for misrepping him even though he had to respond to most of my points because they were too damning to let stand

Because you somehow believe that Duckling who is playing to win to the point that he's whining about postcount shutting him out of the game votes RadiantCowbells who has claimed investigative to... up town winrate?

Like guys? Are you all in some parallel universe where this isn't a super fucking obvious situation?
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Post Post #1758 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:09 am

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VOTE: ari

That’s L-2 I believe.
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Post Post #1759 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:09 am

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In post 70, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 55, tris wrote:i wouldn't say so. sometimes i guess.
Cool cool cool

I ask because while your initial post about the party hat was innocuous, your responses to Math calling it out were a little less so. I could see it from a newbie or someone like Nancy Drew (sorry my compadre but it's apt and I know you understand) who is more likely to take things more emotionally or personally on a quick read. You seemed a lot more ruffled by Math than you needed to be.

VOTE: Tris

I think this a decent start to the game and have a few decent reads already, which is nice :)
In post 1668, Aristophanes wrote:Also I finally got a chance to look into this Flopz character and, uh, WTF is their vote on me and, as a follow up, WTF was their posting around that time!?
It is the fakest shit and, like, the most contrived posting I've read in a long time!

"I'm fixing my vote posthaste because apparently you thought not voting was scummy"
"I scumread Ari for the usual reasons"

Seriously, I don't even know you. What are "the usual reasons"???
Why did you vote me when pressure was placed on you and not before? You said you were gonna come back with a vote and good reasons and content and never did.Your callout to RC was bs. What are you even doing??

VOTE: Flopz

srsly.
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In post 1674, RadiantCowbells wrote:like I can't lynch Duckling who is mod confirmed scum to me and he tried to PL me when I went after you and you come in with the following
Also I finally got a chance to look into this Flopz character and, uh, WTF is their vote on me and, as a follow up, WTF was their posting around that time!?
It is the fakest shit and, like, the most contrived posting I've read in a long time!
It's... really hard to imagine this being a townpost?
I mean, for one thing modconfirmed scum on D1 is something I super expect you to say but also means literally almost nothing in the grand scheme of things because like, no.

For two, I mean, is that not reasonable? It's how I felt about their posting and I literally had not encountered a single post from this person until I searched for them. And their posting is contrived. And their ovte on me is BS. SO Iunno what you expect from me tbh but this is what you're getting so, uh, yeah. Deal with it.
Sorry like

These are incredibly scummy ways of pushing other slots

And the fact that he entirely dodges the question of whether Duckling is scum as well, then starts regurgitating the exact same bullshit that TW has clearly been whining about in scum PT even though it doesn't really make sense since this is the median length game, like

I have never heard of Aristophanes complaining about game length and he was in some really stupidly long games, this comes from somewhere else. Gee I wonder who else seems to be really upset about game length and whose attempt to policy lynch me out of the game makes a fuck ton of sense when I am literally calling out said player as scum with this player.

You guys as a whole really need to get a grip.
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Post Post #1760 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:13 am

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Like you guys don't even have the slightest amount of respect for my reads to want to be forcing Duckling to take a concrete stance on Ari, really?

But whatever. I don't want to play this game in a way that encourages Ari's teammates to again tell him to be here when he can't but this Flopz wagon is bad and y'all should feel bad.
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Post Post #1761 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:16 am

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In post 1760, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like you guys don't even have the slightest amount of respect for my reads to want to be forcing Duckling to take a concrete stance on Ari, really?

But whatever. I don't want to play this game in a way that encourages Ari's teammates to again tell him to be here when he can't but this Flopz wagon is bad and y'all should feel bad.
k thx bye
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Post Post #1762 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:17 am

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RC: 'yall have no respect for my reads'

also RC: 'your reads suck and should feel bad about them'
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Post Post #1763 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:18 am

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My concrete stance is itt. I don't have a read on Ari.
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Post Post #1764 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:19 am

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Sometimes it's objectively true.

I don't really care to be diplomatic about someone literally attempting to policy Lynch an outed investigative because they called then scum and people being yeah this is all very reasonable and likely to come from town just because they got Eddie Cane to ask a bunch of random questions and posted a bunch of sad face emoticons
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Post Post #1765 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:20 am

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All wagons and players are not created equally and I'm not going to pretend they are for feel good reasons when no one is even acting like Ducks play or Ari associatives are a problem
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Post Post #1766 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:26 am

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You have no idea how painful it is to be playing town and have all my contributions asterisked because *I cOuLd Be FaKiNg ThIs As ScUm* when if I was anyone who even slightly towncleared themselves with stuff they posted my slots alignment wouldn't be in question
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Post Post #1767 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:26 am

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RC are you actively trying to get rid of my townread on you?
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Post Post #1768 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:27 am

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Nothing I'm saying here should hurt a townread on me.

If it does you should seriously reconsider how you generate reads because you can dislike what I'm saying but you should never ever scumread it.
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Post Post #1769 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:28 am

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In post 1766, RadiantCowbells wrote:You have no idea how painful it is to be playing town and have all my contributions asterisked because *I cOuLd Be FaKiNg ThIs As ScUm* when if I was anyone who even slightly towncleared themselves with stuff they posted my slots alignment wouldn't be in question
are you even serious right now

ANY (town)player who is taking your reads as the holy bible at this point isn't doing their job properly

Here's a hot take for you

You could actually be faking all of this as scum

That's a fact for YOU
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Post Post #1770 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:29 am

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In post 1768, RadiantCowbells wrote:Nothing I'm saying here should hurt a townread on me.

If it does you should seriously reconsider how you generate reads because you can dislike what I'm saying but you should never ever scumread it.
This statement is explicitely untrue.

You are now shading the worst's slot by diminishing what it is saying about you. You keep hammering on how he's policy lynch pushing you, while that has clearly only been a smaller part in a whole. For instance :)

You think I should ignore that and this should not have an impact of my read on you? Get real plz.
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Post Post #1771 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:30 am

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In post 1769, Iconeum wrote:NY (town)player who is taking your reads as the holy bible at this point isn't doing their job properly
It's a lot easier to determine my alignment by the alignment of people I want lynched than by voting people I don't want lynched and hoping you eventually figure it out (in this case getting nightkilled)

And again, my points are not intrinsically linked to my identity and I'm not telling you to sheep me because I'm me, I'm telling you to sheep me because I have a massive body of evidence for why my reads are right
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Post Post #1772 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:31 am

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In post 1770, Iconeum wrote:You are now shading the worst's slot by diminishing what it is saying about you. You keep hammering on how he's policy lynch pushing you, while that has clearly only been a smaller part in a whole. For instance
Seriously stop for a second:

Why does Duckling scumread me?
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Post Post #1773 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:32 am

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Go through his entire interaction with me since he voted me

All he's done is spew buzzwords like misrep dishonest whatever even when he is responding to a lot of the points at 100% face value and some of the biggest reasons, like the Ari interactions, are objectively true.

I cannot really explain in my own words why Duckling thinks I'm scum.
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Post Post #1774 (ISO) » Thu Jan 09, 2020 2:33 am

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In post 1607, the worst wrote:
In post 1604, RadiantCowbells wrote:What you're really saying when you say I don't need to check myself on any point is that I'm telling the truth
what it means is you're hypertunnelling and not checking yourself at any point; which means you're either so pissed off as town that you're functionally pushing an agenda or you're scum pushing an agenda.

like the rest of that post is the kind of town meta which means either:
- you're town, or
- you're scum who is aware he can use this as a defence

and i don't think either is outside your town or scum range so

i'm just not going to bother going down the rabbit hole
In post 1601, the worst wrote:it's all like, really clearly pushing ~an agenda~ but you're treating me with just enough negligence that you don't need to slow down and check yourself on any point

like fmpov you're getting scummier every time you post

my claimed belief is that i don't give a stuff if you're bussing or not, aorn. my claimed belief is that i don't have a firm read on ari and i do have a firm scumread on you. ergo, am voting you. :)
In post 1594, the worst wrote:i reevaluated my reads because my reads changed
i didn't frame them in a way that was townreadable; you yourself have acknowledged that

i'm pushing you as a scumread. which i've stated on several occasions. you're now both spamming and blatantly misrepresenting me lol. like you're desperately trying to make yourself more policy lynchable.
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