Hmm any valid reason why you think i am scum?In post 670, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Assuming you as scum wouldn't be so unethical as to TR a scum!Saladman in bad faith, and he really is town here. Then maybe it really is Map Wolf with either Phoenix or Naerys.
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I can see scum!you trying to constantly sow suspicion between everyone, acting like nobody can be trusted etc... I've also noted how you thought my TR on you was not genuine, i feel like if you were actually town you would embrace this read. Instead there's this awkward reaction and atmosphere. I can't describe it well, just feels like it could be coming from scum.
Maybe my TR on you was a mistake.- NorwegianboyEE
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lmao watI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M- Ph0enix
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In post 676, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Naery's. What is your read on Map Wolf?
Well, Map is certainly less active than at D1. Idk if i can discuss it here, but Plotinus had intersting post about lurkers, that town actually might have more lurkers than scum.
I personally do not really know what to think about Map- Naerys
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"You do not vote with me, so i vote against you"In post 679, Datisi wrote:lmao wat- NorwegianboyEE
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Well that depends on the player usually.In post 681, Naerys wrote:that town actually might have more lurkers than scum.
I, for example. Hyperpost both as town and scum. Except sometimes i tend to lurk as scum if i know my team is in a good position and i don't want to say anything to mess that up.- Naerys
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Tbf i did not. Okay i have to admit my play is bad, looking back at my posts.In post 678, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Have you even made a reads list? Like... ever?- NorwegianboyEE
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Readslist, as promised:
Datisi, Salad
I have to speak about these two in the same paragraph. As far as D1 goes I was fine with Datisi apart from some minor stuff. I disagree with Norway that Datisi's been townreading Salad from the start, it doesn't seem so. When she starts townreading him, though, her main argument is him often acting in a similar way as Town. I'll ignore the whole thing about if the Mason should have claimed or not because as I already said I think there are good points to both sides of the argument. The townread on Salad is the point that has to be addressed here - speaking from my point of view, if I ignore the fact that Salad's Town playstyle is similar to the one he's showing us in this game, I still have some things that bugged my about him from D1 that I have already addressed as well as the fact that he hasn't posted much on D2. Also, him ignoring some of the questions asked is pissing me off, honestly. The fact that he gave up defending himself is not alignment-indicative whatsoever. I could see Datisi giving him a null read, as there are some things about Salad on D1 that I liked, but also some things I didn't. But a townread, I'm not so sure.
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Also have to address these two together. No problem with him whatsoever on D1. On D2, him starting to suspect Datisi based on the sole fact that Datisi didn't want the Mason to claim I don't understand. The vote-unvote on Datisi I also didn't like. Let's proceed to the Naerys townread then, that's the key point here. Naerys had a bad start, imo. 174 I particularly do not like. Overall, not impressed by her D1. D2: quick to suspect Datisi for no good reason, quick to vote Salad as well, based solely on the evidence from D1 instead of questioning him first. Proceeds to reconsider because... reasons, I guess? So, in general, does the Norway TR on Naerys make sense? No. Why did Norway proceed to vote Naerys after townreading her for so long? I don't know.
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D1 was okay, except some stuff, such as his lingering vote on my slot or him voting my slot along with Non in the first place. D2, though, he's basically non-existent. Overall, not a lot to go off of but from what I have as information currently:
Map Wolf -Leaning Scum
Non Imh
Town, solely because if she was not the Mason the real Mason should've claimed by now, I find. Her overall play I don't like.
Non Imh -Town
To all three of my scumreads: What are your thoughts about the game right now? Reads, anything else you want to share? And given that we're 28 pages in I would like a more thorough answer, not shotgun reads or something. I think it's not much to ask.
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It's kind of hard to say much of value if there isn't that much to comment on. To me there isn't anyone who appears scummy to me. It is also not the case that you can use the votes from D1 to deduce much, since there wasn't really a counterwagon on D1.In post 687, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If we go purely by activity as a scumtell then Map Wolf is the scummiest by far. I could see scum!him looking at the gamestate and deciding to hide in the shadows by saying absolutely nothing of value, hoping town will forget about him.
What's your reasoning behind having 3 scumreads with 2 scum being alive?In post 686, Ph0enix wrote:Readslist, as promised“The biggest defeat is to not lose”-MapWolf- Map Wolf
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Thing is that this applies to most players alive. We don't need to "clear" a slot, we need to lynch scum in order to prevent LyLo.In post 688, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Non Imh's play is plain awful. But at least he's got the mason clear backing him up. Map Wolf i feelis a slot that can't be cleared unless he flips.“The biggest defeat is to not lose”-MapWolf- Ph0enix
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Because I find 3 people scummy? That doesn't mean they all are, obviously.In post 689, Map Wolf wrote:
What's your reasoning behind having 3 scumreads with 2 scum being alive?In post 686, Ph0enix wrote:Readslist, as promised- Naerys
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That it is bit messed up-whole Norwegian/Datisi argument is kinda confusing. And that we should vote carefully, After all myslynch can get us in 3 towns vs 2 scum situation.In post 686, Ph0enix wrote:What are your thoughts about the game right now?
I personally made kinda lot of mistakes, and i am sorry for that, i hope it won´t cost town victory.
1) Your reads are very nice, they are very helpful and you are good with pointing ome things out. What bothers me are posts of the person you replaced - Virgo. But perhaps Virgo really did not have time to write more, i can´t say. But i am leaning towards you being town.
2) Non is mason, but i wish she/he had different style of playing.
3) Saladman kinda reminds me GBJ a bit. Does not write much, avoids some questions. Atleast he posted some readslist, but i wish he wrote his reasons. I can imagine him as both lurking scum and lurking town, so null for now.
4) Datisi is a tough one. There is really many posts for me to go through. Lets just say her argument with Norwegian kind of annoyed me. Although i admit both of them have some points about Saladman.I can imagine that "triangle" Norwegian-Saladman-Datisi contains atleast one scum.I have to ask, for whom aruments like this are more advantageous?
5)Norwegian - Well, this person TR me for some time. I honestly do not know what to think about that. Was it buddying or not? Honestly, i dislike being manipulated and sometimes it felt like u are trying that. But tbf, Datisi tried that too with her pocket post.
At some point it felt almost like Norway was pushing very hard for lynching Saladman. And then ur voting for me and Map Wolf. I am wary of you, i certainly do not trust you (tbf only person i could trust is Non).
6) Map Wolf - I do not really know what to write about him. Or what to think about him.
Rn i do not see any clear scum. As i said, possibly trio Datisi-Norwegian-Saladman contains scum.- Map Wolf
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Well, if Saladman is town, either Datisi or Norwegian is using him for hers/his purpose. If Norwegian is scum, he is using Saladman´s lurking to make us myslynch. Datisi would be either defending his scum buddy or trying to make Norwegian the bad one - so we would lynch Norwegian.In post 693, Map Wolf wrote:@Naerys could you elaborate on 4)? I mean, mathematically it is likely that any three people out of six contain at least one scum.
Or Saladman is scum, and hopes we will think he is townie, just like GBJ.- Saladman27
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