Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Literally

All that is in that post is him claiming it's a real scumread and using the word agenda 3 times without actually pointing out any instances of me pushing an agenda. For example he first concretely accused me of agenda pushing by pointing out the similarities between what Ari was complaining about and what Duck claimed to be complaining about and given I have never in my life seen Ari make that kind of complaint, I said it was prolly scum-scum. Duck handwaved that and said because it's true there's a lot of posts it is objectively true and I am agenda pushing. Even though this is the median lengthed game.

[Iconeum]

RC, i'll say this in my own words:

I think you are being unreasonable and unfair here. You should be expecting everyone to challenge-question your reads, not have them blindly follow you to either the holy land or off a cliff.

You are very clear about your thoughts, and if Ari flips scum or you flip town, a LOT of information will be given to town.
Information that is currently not there.

Keep working on solving this game. You have your top scumread (Ari) on L2 or something, so stop complaining that nobody is listening to you.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're not making an effort to understand how I feel and why I'm so frustrated here if you think that just Ari being at L2 resolves my problem with the game.

[Iconeum]

Literally

All that is in that post is him claiming it's a real scumread and using the word agenda 3 times without actually pointing out any instances of me pushing an agenda. For example he first concretely accused me of agenda pushing by pointing out the similarities between what Ari was complaining about and what Duck claimed to be complaining about and given I have never in my life seen Ari make that kind of complaint, I said it was prolly scum-scum. Duck handwaved that and said because it's true there's a lot of posts it is objectively true and I am agenda pushing. Even though this is the median lengthed game.

I'm not saying that I agree with the duck's push on you

but it's definitely more then policy, even if it's untrue/faked/frustration push

you diminishing that to 'why u policy lynch me' doesn't help

I'm done about this subject now btw

[Iconeum]

You're not making an effort to understand how I feel and why I'm so frustrated here if you think that just Ari being at L2 resolves my problem with the game.

I think I'm making more effort then most, actually. And seriously, the problem here isn't us understanding you. It's the other way around.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am diminishing it to y u policy lynch me because he used the exact phrasing and because frankly I don't have the ability to respond to an argument for why I'm scum because none has actually been made except a bunch of vague at accusations that I'm pushing an agenda and shutting down town discourse

[RadiantCowbells]

I think that assuming I end up being right in postgame

I'm 100% justified being salty that you guys don't see this.

[Iconeum]

oh ok

VOTE: ari

i'm just gonna start sheeping your reads for as long as I can

shutting down my own thoughts as you require

also that's like

L-1

or smt

maybe it's a lynch

who knows

ari is scum anyways right

[RadiantCowbells]

Unvote please because again, I don't want to be a contributing factor to Ari's scumteam bullying him to come play when he's busy.

I'm just asking people to take things I say seriously and not let my scumgame hang over how people interpret things I say?

Like I'm saying factual things...

[Iconeum]

oh no no no

i was trying to be reasonable with you

that didn't work

now i'll be unreasonable with you

[RadiantCowbells]

Both positions are unreasonable

There's a middle ground here

[Xtoxm]

interesting

[Xtoxm]

i want to hang out with you too duck <3
ideally i want to see the result of a cycle before taking a stance/trying to for a read on rc
if this game is stressing you out you could focus on your teammates games for a bit
thats what im doing and im enjoying tm a lot more that way

[MathBlade]

Unvote please because again, I don't want to be a contributing factor to Ari's scumteam bullying him to come play when he's busy.

I'm just asking people to take things I say seriously and not let my scumgame hang over how people interpret things I say?

Like I'm saying factual things...

You already are!

If people vote anyone besides Ari you call their reads shit and brag about how good you are
If people vote Ari then you give them shit to wait until Sunday
If people don’t vote then you give them shit about not being convinced.

There is literally no post safe here.

The only things that happen are two days more of spam.

The only way things move forward is if you let them Raybells and let people hunt the way they do.

Otherwise the answer is to hammer and say fuck it and use Ari as an alignment detector for you.

I have to go to work Raybells but put yourself in the other players shoes and what you want them to do.
Because with what it seems like you’re proposing no man’s land is a thing

[skitter30]

Mathblade is town btw, in case that wasnt blindingly obvious ^

[skitter30]

I dont know what we're supposed to do until sunday

[skitter30]

I owe Skitter a post. The long and short is that coming off catching you in Port Arthur and again in PFUP I kind of expected Town!Skitter to engage with me earlier without me having to throw down suspicion. Knowing that it might take a little time but I generally have a lock read on Skitter on day 1 going all the way back to that judgement something game (forgot the name) with Ausuka and Umlaut as scum.

I think gauging how I read Skitter is also a good way to catch scum!me since giving me leeway to waffle my read there indicates an agenda on my end and Skitter would be aware of that.

I kind of had to seek Skitter out after throwing out a fos and it had me worried till the Skitter/RC interaction put it back on track.

I think you have a very interesting, but wrong, thought process as to how to read me wrt how much i engage you

Or to be blunt, i think you've given a lot more thought as to how i would engage you as either alignment than i have

[MathBlade]

I dont know what we're supposed to do until sunday

You do you.

If RC pulls shit to stop people from hunting I will figure something out.

[skitter30]

loving the flavour, @implo

[skitter30]

VOTE: ari

That’s L-2 I believe.

So, does this vote creep out anyone else, or is it just me ???

I dont understand the teacher trs rn ....

[skitter30]

UNVOTE:

If we're waiting till sunday i would prefer to take a lolhammer off the table

I'm literally trying not to read rc/tw any more rn btw

I am starting to get tw/ico pings

Also xtoxm is still being useless

[skitter30]

Actually
VOTE: teacher

[RadiantCowbells]

It doesn't creep me out.

[RadiantCowbells]

You're welcome to follow up on it though

[Iconeum]

Mathblade is town btw, in case that wasnt blindingly obvious ^

why am i in your scumpool