Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[skitter30]

at this point ari is almost like a proxy for the tw/rc thing

and if he's town i'd think rc is scum pushing a tw/rc narrative
and if he's scum i'd tw was trying to defend him

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG doesn't believe that you would ever misread me here and that's the smoking gun in her decision to lynch you over Ari.

I don't think EC also makes that misread either.

She is no longer present and I will encourage her to actually respond this time but I really don't think our position as a hydra team whatever changes.

[RadiantCowbells]

at this point ari is almost like a proxy for the tw/rc thing

and if he's town i'd think rc is scum pushing a tw/rc narrative
and if he's scum i'd tw was trying to defend him

Ok

But what if NSG is actually right that Duck was trying to fake associatives and screw with me

[skitter30]

i will also say that this has done a remarkable job of warping the gamestate and i really think everyone needs to like ~calm down~ and that i'm going to be able to approach this with a clearer head after night, i think

and i think most people kinda feel the same way at this point

[the worst]

She also said it took her about 2 minutes to hard townread you in 9:12 (but one data point and predicting town is 70% right but still)

i'd attribute a fair bit to this being a larger & much harder game

i found it like *abnormally* easy to towntell in that 09:12; like i was a tpr in a very townsided open in which case i replaced iconeum who was sincerely extremely obvtown and it was a town stomp.

idk what to tell you; but at the very least i'd expect nsg to
acknowledge that my town/scumgames are not day and night anymore :p

regardless. i'm a lot more interested in her thoughts on eddie's q's than like our history/meta if that's ok

[skitter30]

has he ever like done that as scum even ...?

so he's scum and just like sowing associatives with ari as a big massive distraction
he just gets lynched here eventually tho so what's the point

[MathBlade]

i will also say that this has done a remarkable job of warping the gamestate and i really think everyone needs to like ~calm down~ and that i'm going to be able to approach this with a clearer head after night, i think

and i think most people kinda feel the same way at this point

Hence why I want the focus on Ari.

We need a lynch that isn’t the drama of RC/tw to avoid stagnation.

[RadiantCowbells]

so he's scum and just like sowing associatives with ari as a big massive distraction
he just gets lynched here eventually tho so what's the point

If Ari flips town and I flip town no one lynches Duckling after.

[skitter30]

like what tw gets lynched first and is setting up ari to go after him ?
i mean ... there's gotta be an easier way to get town!ari mislynched than this, right?

[skitter30]

so he's scum and just like sowing associatives with ari as a big massive distraction
he just gets lynched here eventually tho so what's the point

If Ari flips town and I flip town no one lynches Duckling after.

uh no i think tw is probably next in that universe

[RadiantCowbells]

I was already bringing up some of the problems with Ari-TW associatives before NSG got really worried about it; no one cared then, who is hypothetically going to care after I've hypothetically discredited myself to shit driving a mislynch?

[skitter30]

i will also say that this has done a remarkable job of warping the gamestate and i really think everyone needs to like ~calm down~ and that i'm going to be able to approach this with a clearer head after night, i think

and i think most people kinda feel the same way at this point

Hence why I want the focus on Ari.

We need a lynch that isn’t the drama of RC/tw to avoid stagnation.

i think it was probably a townie pop-in?

[RadiantCowbells]

like what tw gets lynched first and is setting up ari to go after him ?
i mean ... there's gotta be an easier way to get town!ari mislynched than this, right?

I think the idea is he's setting me up to fall.

[the worst]

at this point ari is almost like a proxy for the tw/rc thing

and if he's town i'd think rc is scum pushing a tw/rc narrative
and if he's scum i'd tw was trying to defend him

Ok

But what if NSG is actually right that Duck was trying to fake associatives and screw with me

sorry, i'm going to calmness-check myself before i reply and only reply when i feel it matters but god i wish i was this good :{

the best i've done of this was literally BoP2 and i only managed to get urap to consider that i wasn't totally partnercleared with you in order to vent his frustrations by locking you as scum and it was something enter and i very much came up with at the 11th hour and it shouldn't have worked

like you've suggested i have a really strong vein of poor associatives with ari and i'm not sure why i ever look at this plist and v/la ari and go "mmmm yeet let's pretend to be scum with afkstophanes"

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not going to say it was a townie pop-in but I am also not going against NSGs read.

[skitter30]

cuz if you're town we go back and look at the points you brought up when we're not embroiled in a 2day long 1v1 wherein anybody talking about it liable to continue it

[MathBlade]

I think it’s null or scum leaning.

It’s too coincidental. Right when RC does things Ari comes in.

It’s weird. I want to see what Ari’s catch up is. If he’s town then it helps us if he is scum it helps us.

[skitter30]

also ari i hope everything is ok at work, that sounds brutal <3

[RadiantCowbells]

at this point ari is almost like a proxy for the tw/rc thing

and if he's town i'd think rc is scum pushing a tw/rc narrative
and if he's scum i'd tw was trying to defend him

Ok

But what if NSG is actually right that Duck was trying to fake associatives and screw with me

sorry, i'm going to calmness-check myself before i reply and only reply when i feel it matters but god i wish i was this good :{

the best i've done of this was literally BoP2 and i only managed to get urap to consider that i wasn't totally partnercleared with you in order to vent his frustrations by locking you as scum and it was something enter and i very much came up with at the 11th hour and it shouldn't have worked

like you've suggested i have a really strong vein of poor associatives with ari and i'm not sure why i ever look at this plist and v/la ari and go "mmmm yeet let's pretend to be scum with afkstophanes"

NSGs case

Is that the original Skitter vote has nothing to do with Ari and was just hopping on an easy mislynch

And that you decided after I connected the two after you voted me to trick me by having shitty associatives with Ari into leading his lynch rather than yours.

[skitter30]

rc's been talking about him like non-stop for the past like 3 irl days, anytime he pops in rc is probably talking about him

[MathBlade]

also ari i hope everything is ok at work, that sounds brutal <3

This.

What do you make of Bella?

[RadiantCowbells]

She had colorful words to describe how little sense your position on Aristophanes made.

[the worst]

cuz if you're town we go back and look at the points you brought up when we're not embroiled in a 2day long 1v1 wherein anybody talking about it liable to continue it

^ this

if we get an RC townflip i don't think i can get through this without an absolute roasting of an AMA off what's itt atm. if i were a scumslot i don't think i have a path to endgame unless rc is just categorically kept alive so that people are too petrified to murder either of us :s

[the worst]

She had colorful words to describe how little sense your position on Aristophanes made.

i'm happy for her.
if she's town i hope you both get a decent laugh postgame

[RadiantCowbells]

Too poorly thought out to be buddies and very probably too poorly reasoned to be town.