Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[skitter30]

like what tw gets lynched first and is setting up ari to go after him ?
i mean ... there's gotta be an easier way to get town!ari mislynched than this, right?

I think the idea is he's setting me up to fall.

so tw -> you via making ari look like a partner ?
yeah i'm not sure how viable of an idea that is tbh

[the worst]

this is me not engaging in another circular bullshit storm

[skitter30]

also ari i hope everything is ok at work, that sounds brutal <3

This.

What do you make of Bella?

i think she's scummy but the voices in my head (specifically jjh) tell me she's townie and that we shouldn't lynch her
amrun had a read too but i'm forgetting it off the top of my head
but i think townie also

[RadiantCowbells]

so tw -> you via making ari look like a partner ?
yeah i'm not sure how viable of an idea that is tbh

shrug

it's her reason for me to change votes.

[MathBlade]

Man I wish I was town nuker so I could nuke TW and RC from this game.

Neither of you are considering TVT

You’ve had your turn now I am working with Skitter

Stop riling each other up

[the worst]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

back to work seeya later

skitter & math both - i sincerely wish i could stay cool long enough to do half of what you guys are doing rn. thank you.

[MathBlade]

also ari i hope everything is ok at work, that sounds brutal <3

This.

What do you make of Bella?

i think she's scummy but the voices in my head (specifically jjh) tell me she's townie and that we shouldn't lynch her
amrun had a read too but i'm forgetting it off the top of my head
but i think townie also

Care to do a readwall omitting RC and TW and Ari?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

back to work seeya later

skitter & math both - i sincerely wish i could stay cool long enough to do half of what you guys are doing rn. thank you.

Also this is my claim

But you know full well that NSG and by extension me are town.

[skitter30]

whoo 2000 post-day1

[RadiantCowbells]

Also like you guys should see that he's trying to pocket you?

Like he keeps buttering y'all up

[MathBlade]

whoo 2000 post-day1

It would help if you could do that and we could find new lines of conversation and start something.

[RadiantCowbells]

But ok

I am willing to back down on TW if he dies the day after I get nightkilled, no ifs or buts.

Not bc I think it's pro wincon, but because I'm really really tired if this.

[the worst]

real quick: ico bella math skitter ~maybe~ rce town ottomh

pedit: i think y'all know me too well to treat my sincerity as AI; skitter especially knows me too well to treat me saying nice things as towny. i say them because they're important holistically.

[skitter30]

{math}
{rce}
{ari}
{flopz, bella}
{xtoxm} - null
{teacher, ico} (teacher baffled by the tr's, i still need to look at eddie's town!ico)
{plum, tris} (idk if they make sense together)

i don't have nearly enough tr's that i feel good about rn

wasn't sure whether or not to give ari his own line or to put him with flopz/bella, they're both just barely above null

[RadiantCowbells]

NSG agrees w/ you on Teacher / Tris below null.

I didn't get a full readslist from her because we were talking about other things but.

[MathBlade]

{math}
{rce}
{ari}
{flopz, bella}
{xtoxm} - null
{teacher, ico} (teacher baffled by the tr's, i still need to look at eddie's town!ico)
{plum, tris} (idk if they make sense together)

i don't have nearly enough tr's that i feel good about rn

wasn't sure whether or not to give ari his own line or to put him with flopz/bella, they're both just barely above null

So let’s talk teacher. Why do you scumread them? I will find the post that stood out to me

[skitter30]

b/c i don't tr him yet and i find it alarming

[skitter30]

ari vote was scary too

[the worst]

eddie town!coneum rescued from the dumpster fire of my iso

Spoiler:

sorry that was meant to be earlier, got pedit'd

eddie thinks ico... in duck words, "has a limited scumrange".

stuff like this pings him as very natural:

hi skitter

i'm here

wanna talk about stuff

before you say that i am dodging you again

dude i'm spending more time googling what you are saying then anything else here fml

50 bucks says floppie hasn't actually read past that mathblade post yet

not really

I'm going with the flow a bit, I don't have enough strenght to push this game in the direction I want, which is Floppy. There's a strong scumread on him in my head, but I've also already largely written that out in here but nobody seems interested yet.

Watching closely to see how this is playing out wrt Tris, on which I don't really have a read rn.

I'm considering this to be a chill game despite some players trying to prove otherwise, and I'm quite happy with having a few good townreads and a few good scumreads rn. There's nothing I can do to force the low-content scumreads to post more, so yeah.

he feels like these are just not things scum does in this kind of gamestate to white knight, esp. vs someone like RC

it doesn't feel like scum defending a partner

so it's kinda defaulting to town

i don't really see ari as scum

would lynch in xtoxm/bella/flopz all before ari

I know you know ari a LOT better then I do, but does that fuck all attitude doesn't read like it comes from scum

Alright lads, new year ergo new me. I'm getting REAL annoyed at all these players jumping down on me just because I'm not good at this game. RadisntCowbells (what kind of name even is that?) and teacher implying I'm scum.

What a load of horseshit!

Back off NOW and stop scumreading me for shitty reasons. All I was doing was saying I'm involving myself in the game and all I got in return was attack after bloody attack. How am I supposed to even breathe at this point?!?!?

I joined as a personal favour to Hectic but nobody told me it was going to be like this. I thought this was supposed to be a fun game wiht intersesting debates where everyone was supposed to critique the arguments and not belittle everyone's character but this was completely different to that. Who'd want their first game to be filled with such utter tripe? I expected better from such

VETERANS

. If Team Mafia is supposed to be representative of the site as a whole, the mods should be clamping down on this toxicity and personal attacks. Aggressiveness and enthusiasm are absolutely fine, attacks and toxicity are beyond the pale.

Just look at 154, how is that even allowed?

My Team has already lost the game at this point so this is just a slog for slogging's sake. Hopkirk spent fucking eages ranting about this shit on this discord about how it's now literally impossible for us to win no matter what we fucking do. We've spent more time arguing about that then I have even spent in this terrible game. We've already got a modkill on D1 which has killed much of my enthusiam for Team Mafia and all this bullshittery going on is not fucking helping anything.

instead of quoting the one post this game has had that went into toxic territory (but it actually isn't toxic at all), I don't know what game you've been reading.

There's a lot of discussion out there about WHY you are potentially scum, but you seem to be ignorting this because? If you think you can hide behind calling this game and it's players toxic, you are sadly mistaken.

If you want debates, how about you start adressing the posts that call you scum? Or make actual contributions to the game? Because you called your previous posts 'not scumhunting' yourself.

he also doesn't think this feels like scum aggression


as an aside when he went thru the iso to pick out post #s he said he's doubling down on this read

[skitter30]

eh maybe scum!ico just takes the ari mislynch when he can unless they're literally just partners

be back shortly

[MathBlade]

VOTE: teacher policy.

Why is this a policy vote?

I had duck for Xmas.

I won’t be around more this weekend (family timez) and I disagree that I haven’t done anything AI yet.

While I normally expect you not to read me that well, I don’t like how you just keep repeating the same thing. It’s like you’re sitting back to see if I can be a consensus but don’t want to take the lead because I’ve already done two things you’ve called out as town indicative for me in the past.

These two posts here stand out to me. They are major town pings to me. In addition to what I have commented on.

[the worst]

ico can't associatives at all either; AvP is his strongest scumgame by a mile and he absolutely froze solid when his partners were talked about

if anyone can ctrl+f ari in his iso whether or not they could be partners should be workoutable

[RadiantCowbells]

I disagree, the latter post actually feels somewhat overworded.

[RadiantCowbells]

Princess paragon lives one second

[MathBlade]

The only team I would consider with teacher is Bella+TW+Teacher

I just don’t see it right now. If I am wrong I would love your help skitter