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[Bitmap]

Hi. I have actual messages from

NSG

.

She said that I've been completely mistreated this game and that is not fair for me. She believes Klick and ofrhz (there's you're town read from NSG, ofrhz) are both locktown and has weaker town reads on [Shadoweh, Jingle, Kerset]. Her scum pool is right now [Menalque, Chemise, Reundo, Alisae] and thinks out of all of them, Alisae is most likely scum.

She has more things to say but wanted to know if I was okay with paraphrasing her blocks of text and I said that's fine so expect some more NSG in this thread down the road.

[Chemist1422]

night ali

[Alisae]

Ok nsg is wrong ig we kill bitmap

[Bitmap]

don't NK me im cute

[Bitmap]

oh yeah RC wanted to add that he agrees on Alisae scumread and has agreed for a long time. He also agrees on NSG's townreads and thinks hito has hi equity as an Alisae partner.

But who cares what RC thinks. I'd rather sheep NSG.

[Alisae]

Ok so I flip town and then town kills you
I like this gameplan

[Bitmap]

i trust the paragon more

[Chemist1422]

Shadoweh Chemist Mena Kerset Bitmap
Hito Klick
GE jjh ofhrz
mastina jingle

this is pretty close to my list

I'd swap Kerset and klick and probably ofrhz and jingle

Let’s start here

separating it into 5 tiers gives something like
{Chemist, Ali, Shadoweh, Klick}
{Mena, Kerset, Bit}
{Hito, jjh, jingle}
{GE (Reundo), mastina}
{ofrhz}

this is what I’m gonna start working from with the top line being the only confident ones

[Alisae]

Sure trust the princess paragon that’s fiiiiiiine
Nsg should be able to read me correctly
If she wants to out an incorrect read u can die when I flip.

[Bitmap]

Do you really think I want to play this game right now?

[hitogoroshi]

haha sorry Ali I went to bed after posting that and now I have work. But good for you townie as shit reaction because that was pretty clearly motivated by guilt and not fear. Will engage more tonight (but late tonight cause I have Unknown Armies after work)

Hi. I have actual messages from

NSG

.

She said that I've been completely mistreated this game and that is not fair for me. She believes Klick and ofrhz (there's you're town read from NSG, ofrhz) are both locktown and has weaker town reads on [Shadoweh, Jingle, Kerset]. Her scum pool is right now [Menalque, Chemise, Reundo, Alisae] and thinks out of all of them, Alisae is most likely scum.

She has more things to say but wanted to know if I was okay with paraphrasing her blocks of text and I said that's fine so expect some more NSG in this thread down the road.

Once again: why vote me when I was your mastina greenflip suspicion, when you (presumably) think mastina is very likely to flip red?

Also here, have some bonus questions to drive engagement: do you disagree with my assessment above that Alisae's reaction (1341 and the huge spew that followed) was driven by guilt for non-cooperation vs. some more scummy motivation? What do you think was alisae-scum's thought process for eir stuff just now?

I also desperately need to hear how NSG got locktown for ofr from ofr pretty brazenly tooting around without any sorta scumread on anything. Especially with menalque in the scumpool.

[Chemist1422]

hito I feel like you’re pushing bad play instead of scummy play

would I be wrong on that

[Menalque]

Hello

My absence here will be explicable

Very soon

[Menalque]

I have been slightly disingenuous in my reasons for not being here but I think it should be p apparent why once I am able to reveal what the real reason is

[hitogoroshi]

hito I feel like you’re pushing bad play instead of scummy play

would I be wrong on that

gotta run but the 1-minute version is that a lot of bad play is bad because it's easy for scum to replicate, so yes there is an element of that in my play-style but it's not like 'good/bad player' and 'mafia/town pm' sit on separate axes. When bad play is totally orthogonal to intent it doesn't really give me scumpings. But things like diminishing the responsibility of your reads pre-flip or not pushing when the town consensus is way against what you want are 'bad' play if you're a townie, but 'exactly what you want' as a mafia if the town isn't about to hit you or your buddies - so it seems very sensible to push against that 'bad play', because townies can react to that accusation by playing better and helping their wincon but scum have to react to that accusation with fake work they don't wanna do and then you can catch out on bad effort or lies or etc.

pedit menalque pls name the baby after me

[Menalque]

Bingle repped into my most recent scumgame and I didn’t want to risk him picking up on any differences between my play here and my play there, so I decided to keep schtum here as I knew that game was nearly done if we could just get one vote on town

Here it is for reference, p sure it’s my best scumgame so far:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81502

[Menalque]

The stuff about being busy bc of arriving back in France was all true tho

Anyway, I’ll now be giving this game full attention

[Kerset]

I feel so demotivated to play this game. No one beside me put thoughts in to this. Everyone just make reads based on personal relations and sheep whoever they like. Relation between mastina and jjh is so obviously sinister. Still after 58 pages people are only looking at their personal targets and take no efforts to solve the background. I don't except players to solve this game by now or look away from me. I am rather sure penguin could post all players abilities right here and people would just scroll their eyes through it without reading. Then they would nod get back to their business, without any concern what those abilities were. This is the kind of commitment that people outside of scum agenda have.

[Chemist1422]

Bingle repped into my most recent scumgame and I didn’t want to risk him picking up on any differences between my play here and my play there, so I decided to keep schtum here as I knew that game was nearly done if we could just get one vote on town

Here it is for reference, p sure it’s my best scumgame so far:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81502

this is me level of paranoia about this

[Menalque]

Bingle repped into my most recent scumgame and I didn’t want to risk him picking up on any differences between my play here and my play there, so I decided to keep schtum here as I knew that game was nearly done if we could just get one vote on town

Here it is for reference, p sure it’s my best scumgame so far:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=81502

this is me level of paranoia about this

Well it worked

Can you catch me up chem?

I did read when I said I was but by “read” I mean I skimmed it and could barely remember any of it the next day anyway

[Menalque]

Why ya still SRing ofhrz?

[Menalque]

I’m not realistically rereading the pages I skimmed/the bits I didn’t read rn bc I spent about 2.5 hours building a

fat

fake case on amrun in GnR and I’m too burned out to do like, another *serious read through* of a game atm

[Menalque]

Maybe tomorrow or Sunday, we’ll see

So for now I’m just gonna be getting back into this game from here I think

[Menalque]

God that was such a stressful game, you have no idea

Amrun literally had our entire team called in lylo and had a ridiculously townie tone

But we set her up from D1 to be the lylo lynch (or a solid candidate for it) and so she just couldn’t quite sell the others on it

[Chemist1422]

Why ya still SRing ofhrz?

I’m not really

I’m kinda just townhunting for rn