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[Flavor Leaf]

That relies on you thinking that his scummates wouldn’t be setting up gamestate elsewhere, though? Cover all pockets. I didn’t read every quote, but what I got from it is you town read him because you don’t think scum him would push you when you weren’t playing the game?

[Ankamius]

That relies on you thinking that his scummates wouldn’t be setting up gamestate elsewhere, though? Cover all pockets. I didn’t read every quote, but what I got from it is you town read him because you don’t think scum him would push you when you weren’t playing the game?

and who are these scum 'setting up the gamestate elsewhere' exactly?

[Flavor Leaf]

If I knew, I’d have called it out, and y’all would have made sure to mislynch me afterwards, while I wait annoyed that I solved the game, and everyone just ignores it.

Scum don’t position themselves together in-game, they spread out. How they spread out is what association tells bring.

I think position scum all together is a really strong scum move that people just don’t take advantage of more often because high risk high reward.

[Ankamius]

ok

do you think I'm right or wrong that scum are mostly on the sidelines

[Flavor Leaf]

I could see a majority being on side lines. There’s a lot of players who come in and then disappear for a while, and if that’s considered sidelines as well, then sure, I could agree with that to an extent.

[Gammagooey]

hey im just gonna quote something from Reck, one of the mods of gay mafia 2 & this game and also kuribo who is a player in this game and is opposing people claiming their neighborhoods

Town had power. Just that true to Gay Mafia tradition,scum managed to out them

Yep.

the sk definitely had an uphill struggle. re-direcotr/roleblocker/fbi agent - any of those targeting the SK basically ends the game for it? + lack of anything to claim iirc? well she did have a 1-shot ability theif type role? uphill struggle but that's what you'd expect for an SK so it's fine.

i think the scum role synergy was pretty strong (bookie + governor = ++) and the re-director role is a bad one when the player isn't informed (and basically bastard IMO). town maybe could have used a stronger role or two? but I think town had a lot of obvious town roles that when claimed made them very hard to lynch.

Scum role synergy was def. strong, but I don't think it's bastard to say "Your target" instead of "PLAYERNAME" when giving results.

it's almost like it makes sense or something
If we think scum has an entire neighborhood to themselves b/c of nightkills or night actions we can massclaim then and figure it out. Let's not blow our loads this early please.

Also I'm gonna join Maria on this for a bit because I just kind of expected him to be better than he has been so far
VOTE: Deasvail

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Spoiler: Unformatted VC

EspressoPatronum - (2) - Almost50, kuribo
chennisden - (2) - EP, nomnomnom
DeasVail - (2) - MariaR, Gammagooey
nomnomnom - (1) - Vex
Ankamius - (1) - DeasVail
Volxen - (1) - Ankamius
It is now Day 2. With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch. Deadline is 1/22/20 at 10:30PM EST.

[Ankamius]

volxen looks townier as scum

Voting to pressure me is one thing, but where is this coming from? We've played four games together: Nomination Mafia, Chain of Command 1 (where I hydra'd with Nancy), Chain of Command 2 (where I hydra'd with Nancy and Auro), and Micro 889 -- Good James Mafia (where I hydra'd with Chennisden). I'm not counting Vengeful Ghosts since I didn't really post in that game. In NM I was town and you were scum, and by the end of the game I was widely townread. In COC1 we were both town, and you and Krazy had me/Nancy as a top townread very early on in the game. Granted Nancy's posting had a lot to do with your townread on our slot in that game, but you and Krazy also picked up on individual towntells from both Nancy and I in that game. In COC2 and GJM I was scum and you were town; in COC2 you were mostly null on my posting, but you immediately started to scumread me in GJM once I started posting. I wasn't really townread in either of those scum games, whereas my slot was widely townread in NM and COC1.

So saying that I look townier as scum doesn't make sense even if we are just going by the four games that you and I have played together.

Thank you for proving my point

All of this is true, and it again shows that I wasn't explaining my scumread, I was explaining to Deas why his assumption wasn't correct

[Ankamius]

One thing I will note is that I helped mod starcraft 3, which you were scum in and got townread until lategame
I spectated BoP2, where you were townread for your posting as scum
I somewhat kept an eye on that newbie outside the newbie forum thing, where you were considered scummy and ended up lynched as town

I'm aware of your general reputation of looking bad as town on day one and improving in readability over time and cam believe that to be the case by what I've seen. I think I've been able to read you fine because I take that into account when I try to read you, so I can prepare for it.

[Vex Vience]

ill reply and catch up after class today.

[DeasVail]

expected him to be better than he has been so far
VOTE: Deasvail

I expect I will be better today or tomorrow.

[Ankamius]

I think I can get a better pic than this

I need to experiment a bit...

[Flavor Leaf]

This game slowed down a bunch. Scum probably are just waiting for someone to make a push.

[Flavor Leaf]

Here’s the thing I have with EP. A lot of people are scum reading him apparently, but I feel that it’s odd nobody seems worried about me getting the Last Man Standing ability in the neighborhood.

So I feel scum are scum reading EP so they can kill me tonight, and get rid of that Last Man Standing, which means somewhere this game, I was considered a threat to the scum team. Where is the question.

[kuribo]

I mean

Him choosing a really scummy hill to die on isn't really helping if that's the case because he's making it real easy to come across as scum


Alternatively he could just be scum, it's not like the wagon is going a mile a minute

[kuribo]

Like just based on today I don't like the whole outting of unnecessary information for exactly zero benefit. I've been in games where we went down that road and it never turns out well for town


I also don't like that bullshit attempt at a townslip where he pretended he didn't know scum have a PT just like in every game of mafia on Mafia's Cum Dot Net since mith birthed it from his loins

[Ankamius]

Thanks for that kuribo

I'm blaming you for my nightmares tonight

[kuribo]

"Oh geee do scum have a PT oh my what if"

I suppose next he'll be surprised to learn that towns vote to lynch people

[kuribo]

Thanks for that kuribo

I'm blaming you for my nightmares tonight

You wouldn't be the first to blame me for those

[Ankamius]

Funny enough

I'm realizing that I might be close to a solve without really analyzing for one

[Flavor Leaf]

I still don’t like it. It reeks of scum threatened by me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Funny enough

I'm realizing that I might be close to a solve without really analyzing for one

I was feeling the same way, however, like I said yesterday, scum are in the town reads.

[Ankamius]

I maintain that its unlikely town has any actual threats as of yet

[Flavor Leaf]

I think GammaGooey or Maria have scum in them. I feel like they’re part of the same neighborhood, and one is driving along the other, if that makes sense.

[Ankamius]

Funny enough

I'm realizing that I might be close to a solve without really analyzing for one

I was feeling the same way, however, like I said yesterday, scum are in the town reads.

'The' or 'my'?