In post 2321, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Now you are pushing this ridiculous theory too? Serious question, does anyone here besides Pops, NaCi, Krazy thinks this even remotely makes even an iota of sense?
How in the actual fuck do you not know any of your team members’ alignment in a game if fucking TEAM mafia?
It makes plenty of sense. Your teammates don't know you're scum, they can't possibly commit scumtells in their reads.
That said I think the isolation it causes outweighs that, but it depends on the team.
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In post 2311, Krazy wrote:Because he's spent half the game selling the idea that if ank is approaching the game like he's town then he's town, and he's trying 5o ad hominem his way out of anyone disagreeing
No, I’m asking how anyone can seriously believe that teams don’t share role pms? I did the team thing on MtG. I was scum in that and I shared every freaking thing with my teammates and Titus was one of them, so she can substantiate that, so no this idea is beyond insane.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 2321, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Now you are pushing this ridiculous theory too? Serious question, does anyone here besides Pops, NaCi, Krazy thinks this even remotely makes even an iota of sense?
How in the actual fuck do you not know any of your team members’ alignment in a game if fucking TEAM mafia?
I don't think that's something you should scumread him for. I can see the logic behind that so that your team members have genuine townie thoughts. The flip side is not being able to help with PR kills, pushes.. etc as Eddie mentioned, but it's worth considering.
Ok guys we don't need to spend pages debating theory, this is already the longest game. Which is fine for me but not everybody can keep up.
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
In post 2321, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Now you are pushing this ridiculous theory too? Serious question, does anyone here besides Pops, NaCi, Krazy thinks this even remotely makes even an iota of sense?
How in the actual fuck do you not know any of your team members’ alignment in a game if fucking TEAM mafia?
It makes plenty of sense. Your teammates don't know you're scum, they can't possibly commit scumtells in their reads.
That said I think the isolation it causes outweighs that, but it depends on the team.
Only if your freaking RC maybe.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
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Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
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Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 2324, Eddie Cane wrote:Can you please comment on the game? My town read is slipping because of your lack of activity.
What do you want me to talk about? I don't usually comment much unprompted after placing a vote.
Krazy's alignment and my alignment, or anything related to either of us. Especially the former. And quick notes on gamestate thoughts. I am aware you do not vote much and it has more of an impact when you do.
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
It's advantageous in the same way that not reading your role PM is advantageous (and therefore not allowed).
Lul, how is it advantageous for you if you're town? If you don't tell them, won't they just assume you're town? Hilarious if this is a scumslip.
(this post is referring to SS)
I don't really care about the scumslip but I think this is a townie thought from Hectic lmfao
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
Krazy's alignment is probably the opposite of yours.
This will be a vastly more productive discussion to have tomorrow, after we know pops's alignment.
I don't think Krazy and Pops have to be partners. Much much more often than not there is one donkey town and one scum, not two scum hard pushing something stupid. The main point to SvS here is Pops and Krazy awkward ass reads on each other, and the weird distancy reads but both coalescing on me.
So, my alignment doesn't have to be opposite to both of them. I would bet 20$ if I could at least one of them is scum. But I need individual analysis, for purposes of sorting you. Why did you choose to vote Pops over me? Why Pops over Krazy? Which of Pops and Krazy do you think is more likely scum? What is your independent read on our 3 slots? These are various prompts, you don't need to answer each one like a separate question, but I think its clear what I'm asking.
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
[quote="In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11500982]
Idk, Krazy. At first, you were uncertain about him and were leaning town, but now you're regarding basically every action of his as scummy. Is this because his play got severely worse overall, or is scum!you shifting your perception? Could also be town tunnelling of course.[/quote]
Yeah, when I realized he was trying to provoke a fight with me and wasn't trying to sort me he lost the benefit of the doubt.
Actually Ank did something that made me briefly reconsider last night but in the end I decided it wasn't enough and isn't worth discussing right now
I thought for a while ank had just fucked up his read but now I see no indication he hasn't approached the entire game with a scum agenda
Hectic find one example where he at any point seemed to actually *think* about my alignment instead of just moving among which wagon he thought was easiest between me and pops
Let me illustrate what's happening. Krazy knows I'm very townie via my teammates, so he's pushing the world that I didn't tell my teammates I'm scum.
@Nancy @auro
you cannot still think he's lock town. i can't believe that.
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
When is he evaluating am or pine in a genuine manner? How does his oka progression make sense from a town pov? I have tried to make sense of his reads, not his team reads that he constantly foregrounds, and I don't see it
In post 2338, Eddie Cane wrote:I don't think Krazy and Pops have to be partners. Much much more often than not there is one donkey town and one scum, not two scum hard pushing something stupid. The main point to SvS here is Pops and Krazy awkward ass reads on each other, and the weird distancy reads but both coalescing on me.
So, my alignment doesn't have to be opposite to both of them. I would bet 20$ if I could at least one of them is scum. But I need individual analysis, for purposes of sorting you. Why did you choose to vote Pops over me? Why Pops over Krazy? Which of Pops and Krazy do you think is more likely scum? What is your independent read on our 3 slots? These are various prompts, you don't need to answer each one like a separate question, but I think its clear what I'm asking.
Sure, seems reasonable. Those claims were only a baseline because like I said I'd prefer to do more analysis once we actually have a flip.
Between the three of you, pops is the only one I have any sort of independent read on, and it's a scumlean. It hasn't really changed much or been affected by recent posting; I have simply seen pops be aggressive and genuine in past towngames, and have seen her scumgame be just kind of bland and attention-avoiding, and this looks more like the latter.
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In post 2341, Eddie Cane wrote:Let me illustrate what's happening. Krazy knows I'm very townie via my teammates, so he's pushing the world that I didn't tell my teammates I'm scum.
@Nancy @auro
you cannot still think he's lock town. i can't believe that.
No. Because when I tried to talk to you about my history with ank you tried to poison the well about it. Instead of having a real conversation you tried to downplay my point. All I wanted to do was understand where your read ended and Ank's began and for the entire first thousand pages it was almost impossible to understand how *you* were reading the game
In post 2332, Hectic wrote:Lul, how is it advantageous for you if you're town? If you don't tell them, won't they just assume you're town?
If they do assume you're town, then there's no downside, and no reason not to do it because of the hypothetical benefit.
*head literally exploding*
If you’re scum, you need to rely on them for help, not just to give reads and they can’t help scum!you if they’re trying to help you to achieve a town wincon. Someone convince me I’m not taking crazy pills here.
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We just need to tread carefully because if you slip up around her as scum she notices and will tear your spine out and slap you to death with it. (I'm slightly scared of Nancy)
~the worst
*******
Nancy is pretty heavenly ngl
~CheekyTeeky
*******
Nancy-scum feels like a hot knife slicing through butter. Nancy-town feels like a magnifying glass in the sun glaring down at an insect.
In post 2341, Eddie Cane wrote:Let me illustrate what's happening. Krazy knows I'm very townie via my teammates, so he's pushing the world that I didn't tell my teammates I'm scum.
@Nancy @auro
you cannot still think he's lock town. i can't believe that.
No. Because when I tried to talk to you about my history with ank you tried to poison the well about it. Instead of having a real conversation you tried to downplay my point. All I wanted to do was understand where your read ended and Ank's began and for the entire first thousand pages it was almost impossible to understand how *you* were reading the game
You were actually poisoning the well by saying, and I quote,
In post 1579, Krazy wrote:Ank being wrong on me isn't new, it's our baseline
Your whole response was to start by handwaving the scumread away as the baseline Ank read.
"Ima need to buy at least Josh a fucking tarot card reading because this dude is scary at picking up on scum before they even post what the fuck type of Ms. Cleo ass psychic ass mothafucka did yall allow to sign up for this site"
It's a differing scum philosophy. Some people simply try to look town as scum; others actively play differently in order to push the scum wincon. It depends on how strong your towngame usually is, how self-aware you are, and how much charisma you have.
My scum philosophy is most definitely the former. So it would help me. But it would not help everyone.
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In post 1675, Eddie Cane wrote:And again, I said this a long time ago, I don't think you and Pops are S/S. Usually, it isn't two scum buddies hard pushing the same thing, its one wrong town and one scum. And I have reconciled her as the one scum. It is easy for a good player to get passionate about something like that as scum, especially if they believe people should be scum reading me for it and think its unfair I'm getting town read, though that's just conjecture.
I'd ask Hopkirk if he's read this game. I don't know him super well but I believe he's experienced and should help out.
Oh yeah, I have an answer for this.
Hopkirk's comments so far:
He says he hasn't properly read the game but will try on Sunday, needs more context leading up to the comment to address it fully. He agrees with Pops that town usually get hard pocketed by scum in the hoods. He doesn't understand why pops said about rearranging hoods though, he's not sure if she addressed or dodged that, because it doesn't make sense if she doesn't want to use it. He agrees with Eddie's 904 in isolation.
