In post 463, Dannflor wrote:I lied about reading, because I went to make more food first. NOW I am reading.
I voted him because I was frustrated with the gamestate (see: VC's with everyone voting a different person) and wanted to build an actual concrete wagon on someone since my pushes on you and Dongempire were going nowhere. I also was the least sure about him of the leading wagons at the time so it was the best place for my vote to go I thought.
The people I feel I have a good grasp on are Hopkirk and Auro, and I think I'll have a pretty solid grasp on FF and Cephrir once I'm done reading.
I have a grasp on why you like Hopkirk, but I don't on why you like Auro. (Fun fact, his name shows up in your iso 38 times). The way he handles suspicion still pings me as "caught for the wrong reasons" with misplaced valuations, though I'll admit theory differences seem to exist.
I am also wondering on what basis Dunnstral is trying to read Auro himself, since a lot of his content around Auro is pointing out things Auro is being attacked for that appear to be in Auro's town range. Maybe I should like Auro more for living in the thread.
In post 355, Espeonage wrote:To provide actual works to answer Dunn's question.
The point I am making is that there is a right way to ask about suspicion on yourself, and just asking and getting
ammo on how to fix it and be town read
is not the way to do it. That is why I am scum reading Auro. All of the mentality stuff I am reading in Auro's posts reads to me as working out how to be town read not how to convince others of their own reads to work with others. This isn't even town ego either which I would admit is probably townie despite being a shithouse way to play the game that I am a hypocrite for calling out.
The entirety of my reasoning is Auro cares more about being town read than finding scum.
In spite of me not liking how Auro handles suspicion, this is not really how I see it and I'd like more context from you on how you see this happening. Like, do you see evidence of Auro weaponizing this ammo / adapting based on the answers he's getting?
In post 466, Espeonage wrote:If it helps, I think I meant to say Dann if I said Dunn. And also I forget why it was so there's that.
How about you try to refresh your memory on it?
In post 498, Espeonage wrote:Fuck I lost a huge post.
Basically I had this big thing that there's probably 1 and maybe 2 scum in the lurkers because of wagon reasons and it ended in me asking for cliff notes on the lurkers from Hopkirk and Auro and my mirroring some points Ceph made.
Bummer, would be interesting to get more in-depth, wider focused takes from you.
In post 409, Auro wrote:
Let's try to figure where we disagree.
1. Esp said I'm scum for a reason X.
2. A cursory glance at my town games would show X in those games.
3. Dunn also says I do X as town.
4. Therefore, scumreading me for X is not valid.
5. Therefore, Esp should re-assess.
(I don't think X is scummy by itself anyway, but that's a different issue)
Can you tell me which point you disagree me with on?
Dunnstral has implied he's
not exactly an Auro whisperer. Does cancel food have a better track record?
In post 496, Auro wrote:Yes, and Dunn's reasoning is that for *her* it's more town indicative than scum indicative - if she were scum she'd drum up some opposition to the wagon, etc, wouldn't sheep and lurk away.
Would you want to lynch her, if not me?
Do you have any meta experience with her? Where exactly were you getting that as scum would she "drum up opposition" to the wagon? Prior to finding out she was going to be replaced, but after I corrected you on the context of the wagon, to what extent did that move the needle on your read there or willingness to lynch her?
In post 491, Auro wrote:
KittyMo: I forgot what I thought of this player before.
What, you haven't done a full meta report on me yet?
