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[EspressoPatronum]

@Ank what happened with your scumread of me from D1 to your read of me today?

my reads changed

Okay, but why and how?

I was your only scumread going into D2. How do you go from that to this:

Remind me again why EP is scum

Shrug

I want volxen tomorrow

Probably gif after that

VOTE: EP

[chennisden]

And u reek of fish

ank, this is more important

can you answer it?

[chennisden]

Ank u reek of low effort scum with nothing to do

if I was low effort scum, I wouldn't be posting at all

and does this make you high effort scum

or at least medium effort scum

[Ankamius]

Fark was the best NK for FL/nomnom and a below average NK to a team outiside of nomnom/FL that should be more worried about Ank the paragon reaching the conclusion that it's a lot of TvTs.

Comment on this, Ankamius, please.

Because we talked earlier about something similar.

except I have

I literally said earlier that the only way you two are scum together is if part of your gameplan is specifically to discredit or throw me off

that specific scenario is possible enough because that was my general stance throughout day 1 anyways and Farkran himself had attacked me for that stance

I put enough stock in NKA that it's a realistic enough tertiary reason to be part of a game plan if part of the scumteam's agenda is to keep me in a state of "why aren't you doing enough" that was shoved down my throat endlessly d1; it's proven to be effective so why NOT go with it?

[Ankamius]

Ank u reek of low effort scum with nothing to do

if I was low effort scum, I wouldn't be posting at all

and does this make you high effort scum

or at least medium effort scum

no

because I'd also be faking being more into the game than I am if I was scum being higher effort

[Ankamius]

I think people don't really understand that it's actually much easier for me to get into a game as scum, because I don't need to do the step of "figuring out what scum are probably doing"

generally if I'm just trolling around like this as scum, it's because the game is going absolutely nowhere and I need more from specific slots to push what I'm trying to push further

this is essentially the difference between my scumgame and my disinterested towngame and I think nobody has really ever figured that out properly within the last couple years

[Flavor Leaf]

Fark was the best NK for FL/nomnom and a below average NK to a team outiside of nomnom/FL that should be more worried about Ank the paragon reaching the conclusion that it's a lot of TvTs.

Comment on this, Ankamius, please.

Because we talked earlier about something similar.

except I have

I literally said earlier that the only way you two are scum together is if part of your gameplan is specifically to discredit or throw me off

that specific scenario is possible enough because that was my general stance throughout day 1 anyways and Farkran himself had attacked me for that stance

I put enough stock in NKA that it's a realistic enough tertiary reason to be part of a game plan if part of the scumteam's agenda is to keep me in a state of "why aren't you doing enough" that was shoved down my throat endlessly d1; it's proven to be effective so why NOT go with it?

I’ve never once stated that about you here, and you’d have had to white knight me super hard yesterday if you are scum. Why not just let me go.

That’s what you got going for me right now.

[MariaR]

My reaction to this thread

[MariaR]

I feel like town is just getting into a bunch of 1v1s right now instead of doing stuff/working together and atm I'm too lazy to really attempt a jumpstart again

[Ankamius]

ngl I'm actually curious whether this wagon on me can somehow threaten an actual lynch

I'd probably die laughing

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like town is just getting into a bunch of 1v1s right now instead of doing stuff/working together and atm I'm too lazy to really attempt a jumpstart again

You’re not getting lynched today.

Side note, Volpe gonna blow a gasket, but EP ‘might’ have scum slipped in my neighborhood.

[Flavor Leaf]

Didn’t mean to quote Maria post.
GammaGooey/Chennis still off to me.
Volpe/Gif/Nomnom need to be taken care of.

I gotta figure things out wit( EP.

[kuribo]

So my team and I have had a discussion and they feel I've gotten way to toxic tonight. Pine especially was upset that while all pissy, I twisted his words in a mean way toward pops, because he respects pops very highly as a player. they reminded me that even if I don't care about my own reputation, that Team Mafia involves three other people. They also said that my reads get really shitty when I'm pissed off and that scum tends to just sit back and watch me cannibalize entire games while I'm filling them with hate. They reminded me that being pissed off is no reason to burn bridges with people I like. Or with strangers for that matter. And finally, they've further reminded me that I've put a lot of effort into trying to not be an asshole lately during games and that the old ways aren't acceptable anymore to other players, to site moderation, or even to myself. They even quoted multiple instances of the remorse I've felt over the years for being mean to people and reminded me did I really wanna have to go down that road yet again.

In the spirit of this being a team effort, and in taking what's probably a good suggestion for my own well-being as well, I've agreed to calm the fuck down and step away from the thread for a bit until my shitty sleepless weekend is over with and then come back here without being a complete dick.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bye Felicia

[volxen]

One thing I will note is that I helped mod starcraft 3, which you were scum in and got townread until lategame
I spectated BoP2, where you were townread for your posting as scum
I somewhat kept an eye on that newbie outside the newbie forum thing, where you were considered scummy and ended up lynched as town

I'm aware of your general reputation of looking bad as town on day one and improving in readability over time and cam believe that to be the case by what I've seen. I think I've been able to read you fine because I take that into account when I try to read you, so I can prepare for it.

Yes, these are fair points. If we include games that you’ve spectated or modded then you’ve seen a fair amount of me as both alignments. Which is why I don’t get why you said “Volxen is always going to scumping me regardless I think” (1815) when you’ve been able to correctly townread me before. I don’t see the point in preemptively saying that you are most likely going to scumread me regardless of what I do before I’ve even really gotten into the game.

With respect to your read on my slot, you haven’t really said much about your scumread on me other than that you believe most/all of the scumteam has been playing from the sidelines (2378 etc.). Is your scumread on me based primarily on my activity? Is it because you don’t believe that my townread on Nom is genuine? Both?

[MariaR]

I know I'm not getting lynched today dw
(I saw it wasn't for me)

Like, I feel people are just mostly hard stuck on there reads and we're not compromising. At the moment it seems like DL is gonna be the biggest factor and that's...lol.

[MariaR]

Oh jesus fuck-

Hey volxen instead of ya know, defending yourself from one person you tell us more about other people. Care to help out?

[nomnomnom]

Maria what slot would you be willing to vote on and compromise on?

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like town is just getting into a bunch of 1v1s right now instead of doing stuff/working together and atm I'm too lazy to really attempt a jumpstart again

You’re not getting lynched today.

Side note, Volpe gonna blow a gasket, but EP ‘might’ have scum slipped in my neighborhood.

I rescind this; I misread a post.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s lynch GammaGooey.

[MariaR]

Why m- you know what fine.

EspressoPatronum
DeasVail
davesaz

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Volxen
GuyInFreezer

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Volpe14
Dr Easy Bake
Gammagooey

in order of 'LET'S DO IT' to 'I guess...'

[MariaR]

The fact I'm doing a reads list basically to try and help out must really mean something huh? Curse you team mafia.

[nomnomnom]

I didn't act a readslist I asked you a list of people you'd be willing to pile on.

[Flavor Leaf]

Tinfoil theory, Gamma’s positioning on Maria’s list is because she wanted to put him on it to not seem suspicious, but doesn’t want him to die because him flipping town would make people come after her.

But that’s just a theory.

A tinfoil theory.

[MariaR]

I didn't act a readslist I asked you a list of people you'd be willing to pile on.

Well you got your list. Care to give me yours
pedit: FL either square up or shut up cause I'm sick of your gamma Maria theory that has no base what so ever and is a waste of my time.