In post 1763, hitogoroshi wrote: In post 1723, Alisae wrote:your tone here suggests to me that you think those reads are bizarre. To me that comes up as a red flag because I don't see as scum why she imploys that strategy when its easier to just put the whole bloc as town
Have thoughts on this but it makes more sense to wait and hear what ofrhz says first. I think you're kinda missing what I think the suspicious thing is but if you are that means ofrhz might also, which means we could get an answer that's really revealing in either direction.
Looping back on this now that ofrhz responded - I think saying "wouldn't fake reads A be more strategic than fake reads B" is already sorta putting more intent behind this than exists, if that makes sense. I imagine the whole reason this works is just because scum isn't doing the extra work to read their TRs and see what they think, since they aren't trying to figure out any alignments. And it's more of a not-paying-attention thing.
I actually like Kerset
1766 even if I disagree with it, feels like a legit tunnel rather than an affected one if that makes sense. I guess the question, though, is whether Kerset is a player who can be death tunneled and still be as factually wrong as
1777 points out. I know that *my* tunnels leave me hyper-sensitive to what the person is actually posting (which is not to say that my tunnels are always right; just that I don't say *objectively* wrong things because the whole point of tunneling is how much attention I'm paying). Oh, I guess his answer is
1799 is that he's talking about just the votes. Kerset that's a goofy answer because both votes were upgrades to join along with bigger wagons on equivalent suspects. It's not like mastina did it only after you voted her she did it only after your wagon was more viable than Bitmaps
IDK maybe Kerset slot has to die at some point but I'm getting some real false positive vibes here my dudes
In post 1873, ofrhz wrote:
I think this is where you’re expecting me to townread Alisae or at least not scumread Alisae because 1) they’re voting reundo and even rejuvenated that wagon and 2) they’ve also arrived at town!mastina and co.
Well, and also the converse - it was definitely mastina and jjh pulling Alisae in to the bloc, and if you think they were wrong to do so I would think you'd have something to say to them.
Speaking generally, I also don’t particularly think it’s a good idea to townread someone simply because they have the same views as you. scum may feel like they need to bus and participate in the echo chamber to inject themselves in the town block. at best, it’s a “save this Alisae read for later” when we have some flips, which is incidentally kind of where I’m at right now.
Oh okay this makes more sense though. If your second-to-last tier is 'punt for later' then like...yeah whatever if you have Literally One Scum Read then I guess it makes enough sense you don't care about Alisae skew yet. It's kinda sus on it's own merits to be this deep in things and say "really, I only think one player is scum, and it's the dude who is the easiest lynch by an order of magnitude" but it's not a cohesion issue then it's just good old fashioned hitting easy targets, which is sometimes scummy but sometimes the easy targets are easy for a reason ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
k fine truce contingent on next post having 1.) best next lynches on each of reundos flips and 2.) shadoweh read
UNVOTE: ofrhz
cutting off my revote in a separate post for ~power~
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