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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:44 am

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Ready through me own iso to make sure I only promised to look at one thing after I caught up (i think so) and wow this hurt more than I remembered.
First time that cowardly fucker Hopkirk ever did anything worth shit in a game of mafia.
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Meanies: Auro, Dong, Dann (though eddie is aok in my ledger), Cheeky.

The meanies range from lynchable to uh in my opinions here.

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:54 am

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Well I assume I didn't really joke at all in that scumgame and I've joked in all of my towngames recently and OH GOD IS THAT THE MODS WITH A HAMMER OH PLEASE NO I'M JUST TRYING TO BE LESS SERIOUS AND HAVE MORE FUN WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH THAT MODKILL AGH WHY CAN'T I FEEL MY LEGS WHY'S IT GETTING SO COLD
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:54 am

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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:56 am

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Are you asking me how came 20 minutes after ?
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:57 am

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Yes, I am asking you how 365 came 20 minutes after 364 given 365 was pretty long and I'm not 100% sure how you could type that much if you were thinking in depth about what you were typing.

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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:58 am

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Cool.

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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:02 am

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Just imagine me like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny, unfortunately you are going to be a bumpkin on the stand.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:08 am

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You don't wanna play Hoppy? Or are you trying to figure out where you fucked up? Not good to build pushes on faulty premises.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:19 am

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In post 605, Formerfish wrote:Cool.

When did I post ?
A while later. Relevant how?
In post 606, Formerfish wrote:Just imagine me like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinny, unfortunately you are going to be a bumpkin on the stand.
You're going to luck into it due to a friend's knowledge?


Currently I'm talking to people on sitechat and posting in other games. I'm also not planning to stay for more than 40 mins max as I want to do other stuff tonight - if you wanna talk.

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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:28 am

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Hop, why am I a meanie to you?
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:29 am

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oh i see what you mean, you made those shorter posts while that one was in draft. That makes sense

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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:30 am

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In post 609, Dannflor wrote:Hop, why am I a meanie to you?
Nothing specifically bad but I feel like I should have more reason to like you by now than I do if that makes sense?

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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:31 am

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In post 608, Hopkirk wrote:A while later. Relevant how?
Negative.

first wall, pages 1-5, 12:18a

second wall, pages 6-10, 1:33a

time for a break, 1:34a

I accidentally post a naked quote from , 2:49a

Pay no attention to my naked quote, 2:50a

third wall, pages 11-15, 3:11a. Also note, post 346 which I accidentally quoted was the 2nd to last post i used in my third wall.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:33 am

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In post 610, Hopkirk wrote:oh i see what you mean, you made those shorter posts while that one was in draft. That makes sense

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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:35 am

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In post 610, Hopkirk wrote:oh i see what you mean, you made those shorter posts while that one was in draft. That makes sense

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Aaaaaayyy, he got there.

And I'll answer CT here as well. Your slot dropped off because when I read the thread in one go i liked that slot, then i realized how dormant it went after bitching at someone for saying they might not give 100% attention to this game.

CT, did you iso me, because if you did you would have seen the post i made about why my read changed on geurts and why he went from a townleanish to a scumlean.

Thats why i said you had a whole to climb out of as soon as you came into the thread.

I feel like both arguments Hoppy and CT are using against me are bad premises because they either missed info crucial to their basis or they ignored something i totally said.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:36 am

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Didn't I put you as one of my main townreads and realize that my only real point against you was provably wrong before you explained why when I'd know you could 100% explain why if you looked at it?

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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:41 am

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In post 412, Formerfish wrote:
In post 410, Cephrir wrote:
In post 407, Formerfish wrote:
In post 406, Cephrir wrote:I've never been good at this but I guess I could try.
Cool, what do you wanna talk about?
Oh, I was supposed to provide the topic? Well, uhhhh we're somewhat aligned on reads so I'm not sure there are any that need hashing out. I guess you could give me some more words on wgeurts town? is it just similarity to your thought process or is there something else? i had no read on that slot and i feel like i should inspect it based on team feedback.
Well, yeah, unless you wanna try to talk me out of the tr i have on you. If you need to sort me still then you would need to figure out how I can help you do that.

Geurt was an initial tr because his posts felt like the could have been written by myself for the most part, its a gut read based off that mind meld. I wish he had kept it up, looking back I see that he hasnt posted in like 5 days, so reading the thread all at once doesnt show that gap. Knowing he gained initial trs from those posts but then completely dropped off the face of the earth makes me wonder if he was scum towning it up for enough cred to coast on or if he is dead irl town.
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In post 414, Cephrir wrote:OK, sure. I probably tend to give townreads for the same reason sometimes even though I'm not really sure it's actually valid. I'll just look forward to hearing more from him I guess!

See I told you I was bad at this! :P realtime interaction should be really helpful, but I just feel put on the spot!

I guess I remember one thing I used to do in fast paced IRC games. What's your favorite season, fishy?
I looked back over his iso and actually found it a bit lacking in isolation. What pinged me especially was when he had a post saying:
In post 177, wgeurts wrote:Reading up, been mildly jetlagged as I flew to Australia a few days ago. Expect much more from me.
Then chastised Auro for saying he picked this game because he thought he'd be a little lower key (hint: it totally is, Theme is 54 pages, normal is 82, open is 88, and the large is only at 95. We have 17 pages), so it turns out that Auro was right, and I think hes the highest poster, so the warning from Geurts seems a little silly now that we know what we know about the posting people have done.

Especially when Geurts makes a later post about traveling again and that was one of his last posts.

And its cool man, i do better in figuring people out by talking to them in real time because they have less time to try and figure out angels and you get more honest answers. If you hunt differently, then do you.

I like fall a lot. There more things for me and my daughter to do and there are holidays that we are starting our own traditions for so its cool.
In post 429, Dannflor wrote:Are we all talking about Auro right now
In post 430, Formerfish wrote:Auro and Geurts pretty much.
In post 431, Dannflor wrote:I don't remember wgeurts doing much of anything, what is there to talk about
In post 432, Formerfish wrote:
In post 417, Formerfish wrote:
In post 414, Cephrir wrote:OK, sure. I probably tend to give townreads for the same reason sometimes even though I'm not really sure it's actually valid. I'll just look forward to hearing more from him I guess!

See I told you I was bad at this! :P realtime interaction should be really helpful, but I just feel put on the spot!

I guess I remember one thing I used to do in fast paced IRC games. What's your favorite season, fishy?
I looked back over his iso and actually found it a bit lacking in isolation. What pinged me especially was when he had a post saying:
In post 177, wgeurts wrote:Reading up, been mildly jetlagged as I flew to Australia a few days ago. Expect much more from me.
Then chastised Auro for saying he picked this game because he thought he'd be a little lower key (hint: it totally is, Theme is 54 pages, normal is 82, open is 88, and the large is only at 95. We have 17 pages), so it turns out that Auro was right, and I think hes the highest poster, so the warning from Geurts seems a little silly now that we know what we know about the posting people have done.

Especially when Geurts makes a later post about traveling again and that was one of his last posts.

And its cool man, i do better in figuring people out by talking to them in real time because they have less time to try and figure out angels and you get more honest answers. If you hunt differently, then do you.

I like fall a lot. There more things for me and my daughter to do and there are holidays that we are starting our own traditions for so its cool.
I could keep going CT.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:42 am

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Hop, eddie would like to tell you that I am town

also, if he was playing he'd be voting nsg
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:42 am

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Cheeky is big town
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:45 am

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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:46 am

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yeah alright

VOTE: nsg

dongempire is not exciting me much anymore anyway
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:47 am

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Eddie does seem like a respectable guy from what I know of him.

NSG I don't understand what she's trying to do and I'd definitely consider voting there.

Why town Cheeky? I remember liking her replacee first time around but didn't on a reread. Cheeky feels kind of like 'scummier if we're on right tracks, townier if we're not' to me. Bayesian associations make her slightly scummier based on that, but otherwise no real read on Cheeky's own contributions thusfar.

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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:48 am

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Oh the Auro wagon has half shifted so keeping it up is less pressure than I thought. Sure.

VOTE: Northside

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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:48 am

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I'm probably like

Auro, Hop, Dunn
Cheeky, Kitty, Cephrir?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:49 am

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I feel like I trust Eddie but not you kind of?

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