Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

I think town doesn't just win it slaughters just

fuck if the pressure isn't getting to me

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok maybe Tris/Duck is the more obvious take and I'm just being a moron

[RadiantCowbells]

Fuck it I'm gonna townread teacher just because.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm persuaded
VOTE: ari

pretending to have an opinion is for posers
i'm not proud of the read doubling down on a read i don't really care about yet feels cheap

You literally gave me cred for leading

this is not why i gave you early cred
i'm like, 4x as experienced or something as i was in heroes wanted

that's more or less my feeling

i'll let u know when i do

sorry my posting sucks.
i was excited on opening the thread but i'm tired and it's kinda like spammy and boring

i'll be around the place for a while

drive safe

could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?

i think tris is town

i think ari/ico is believable maybe

this is a vibe

could you throw me like a very iconeum 20 word explanation of the plum vote ico?

plum overdefending against her party time opening didn't read great
voting mathblade wasn't amazing, it also came after RC voted Math so it feels like plum didn't feel safe voting for Math by herself?
making 169 and using that as a scumread for Math is yuck
also unvoted after RC makes me feel like Plum is trying to get in the shade, because the sun is burning hot like in aussie right now
209 is just an evacuation of the current gamestate which just says 'ok time to fuck off of my slot here guys', which is fine but I don't think an actual scumread on Math goes away from that post alone

anyone have strong feelings on this
ico it feels like you've compiled a list of things which ~look~ bad about plum but i don't feel really compelled to believe that these make you think she's scum

i already get the feeling this is not actually going to be a toxic game and that feels good

this game has already deeply offended me.

i think it's fine.

i feel like it's a lot of fucks for ico to give this early in the game about stuff i like, personally didn't really give a fuck about, but ok

ducky were you baiting me there?

i'm not that fancy

ducky what made you change your opinion on him?

page 4 mathblade feels kinda... silly
his reactive 3p scumteam solves just feel kinda silly
idk he feels like he's trying to be seen as towny and solvey but i'm finding his opinions increasingly difficult to parse

ngl i think i'm biasing slightly because i have no idea why i'm suddenly in his scumteam solves outside of my posting being lacklustre

this is a more intense slow game than your scum slow game i... think?
i'm not into this game yet at all, but i am happy you're enjoying it.

i'm really confused because my slow i meant completely devoid of intensity? I feel like there's been virtually no, like, force behind anything that I've done and that's what I meant by slow moreso

have you like, read your low intensity scum games lol

should we scumread you for thaT?

i getcha

you think i would betray you by rolling scum? smh.

ahh mm and the other time with enter

yeah ok maybe i would betray you, but not this time

sigh

ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.

and is scumreading rce, plum

i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads

she is also leaning town on me but apparently that read is fragile as well.

ank is stronger than i am.
she has math, rc, ico and tris as town
skitter as town but fragile.

and is scumreading rce, plum

i am withholding her read on aristophanes, and omitting nullreads

Please can we not do this? It's cool if your partners are influencing your reads but x is reading x slot town/scum influences ALL of the games.

i literally do not know how to respond to this i'm sorry

i don't feel remotely bad or unjustified in shading my partner's thoughts, and i will not be discussing any other ongoing games in this thread

I have another scumread shared with a teammate in teacher, which I'm holding for the moment in case the lack of desktop access was changing stuff there.

i'd just be generally interested to see why you have teacher south of null rn

i don't think that should meaningfully impact your ability to read me tbqh
i happen to revere ank's reads and wanted to share them

that's about it

that's the read that piqued my curiosity the most too - she's finding him a bit too compromisey, doesn't feel like his posting trajectory reads true and like he's been responding to kinda.. odd things.

i don't disagree with her, but i'm not confident i can read him yet.

tris's response to mathblade pushing for reads felt pretty townie too actually

generally agree

i get you - i think there are rare situations where being like "x is townreading me? ugh that's pockety" is intuitive but those situations are rare, where scum making the decision to suggest someone is pocketing to both try and look townier + deflate the other person's position is just a more realistic mindset

do tell

Where’d the duck go?

working a lot & getting ready to move house atm :/ this is my ~second priority behind like volunteering positions onsite so... you will get as much of me as i can give

Pls tell me this is not fire related. Ive been thinking of you actually. Congrats on the GTKAS, you might even get me to do it.

Luckily not - the fires are mostly interstate, but even so not close to where I am. All the same, feel horrible for those affected.

Itd be great to see you around the GTKAS!

(also second wish to impose geriatric rules tbh)

Tw what's your read on ico?

Ico's probably town

Ok

VOTE: skitter this is so upsetting

VOTE: Ari I'm down to spook ari when he comes back

Hiconeum

what do you make of mathblade aorn tris?

VOTE: flopz xtoxm there's like a near 0% chance we have a vig

Wow

It's not once

It's twice that TW votes Ari, says nothing about him (besides that really roundabout comment on pocketing in the first bit) then unvotes without saying anything about who he votes.

[RadiantCowbells]

Also, yourself, Math, and skitter have more than 2/3 of this thread within your posts and I don't want to read your back and forth bickering. The rest of the players don't seem to interact with each other from the snippets I've read, like any of them, because you three dominate.

So what even is the point other than generating reads on you three?

Okay, RC, I'm sorry about that. I just see the thread dominated my you, not the breaks.

Can you tell me why you scumread me? What in my posting has given you this read?
I can address it if I know what it is, but otherwise I'm likely to continue down my D1 mislynch path and I know you're seen this too often to count at this point.

Also Ari

I literally never accused you of being scum for lack of posting or reading
You know who keeps bringing that up as a thing? Duckling.

Almost as if you're taking talking points from him.

My talking points are from Nancy Drew and I was told I was L-1 and ready to be lynched because you're pushing a scum!me narrative based on, like, iunno tonal shit and inactivity was kinda my assumption.

I was asked to get in here and explain myself, so I did. I have legit no idea what TW thinks about my slot.

Wait what the fuck
NANCY FUCKING DREW 39
IS COMPLAINING THAT PPL ARE POSTING TOO MUCH

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok I misread but still where the fuck does that generating read on us 3 come from if it doesn't come from a duck

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok maybe NSG just led me down the primrose path

[RadiantCowbells]

Or it's just Tris/Plum and TW is scummy because... he's scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

Tris/Teacher/TW fits most of the same

Oh wait I'm flooding the thread again and people aren't going to townread me for it so why bother tbh.

[RadiantCowbells]

Last thought for the night

Duckling would be hyper conscious about his votes and unvotes on a scumbuddy: perhaps how bad his Ari associatives are evidence that Ari is town, not scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

Sorry for doing this to you again Skitter but I think I want to wait see what Ari does and then I'm still voting in your scumpile.

[the worst]

Still waiting on Ari
RC saying same shit
VOTE: RC
If ml happens just remember to lynch RC tomorrow
if you all want to solve the shitfest gamestate please please lynch in RC/me because nobody is doing much outside of RC shitting the thread up with literally any noise that he thinks might stick and I like legit don't blame people for not wanting to play

tyia

[MathBlade]

Still waiting on Ari
RC saying same shit
VOTE: RC
If ml happens just remember to lynch RC tomorrow
if you all want to solve the shitfest gamestate please please lynch in RC/me because nobody is doing much outside of RC shitting the thread up with literally any noise that he thinks might stick and I like legit don't blame people for not wanting to play

tyia

MathBlade has a temporary jump of power.

We are not lynching RC today. Who do you think are RC’s partners?

Poke there.

**Looks like he’s about to bounce again**

[the worst]

Why are you so passionately dedicated to letting this gamestate continue to exist

ok I don't know I don't have teamsolves I just see scum and want it dead

I'll go for anyone I don't townread tbh

[MathBlade]

Why are you so passionately dedicated to letting this gamestate continue to exist

ok I don't know I don't have teamsolves I just see scum and want it dead

I'll go for anyone I don't townread tbh

Because I operate on possible worlds and if y’all are TvT no one wins and we have back to back lynches and if we are to defeat scum it’s a cooperative game.

So answer the question: Who are some of RCs partners to you? Take this as who do you scumread but omit RC if that helps.

[RadiantCowbells]

We aren't TvT and your complete inability to recognize antispew amazes me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Duck won't commit to reads unless I lead a mislynch that reflects badly on him and he gets a serious chance to ML me.

[RadiantCowbells]

Badly on me*

[MathBlade]

We aren't TvT and your complete inability to recognize antispew amazes me.

I agree that’s likely not the case but I also consider what if I am wrong. I think it’s SvS between you two and Ari is the third. Like I said earlier.

Gotta bounce to prevent spam.

[RadiantCowbells]

It took however long this is to occur to me that if Ari isn't scum the Ro3 doesn't apply.

[Aristophanes]

I'm back btw!

Hopefully I can stop being useless now

[the worst]

gonna keep this short and sharp

- rc's read on me was as an Ari partner desperately trying to defend him (e.g. 1494) which he has now pivoted into a world with town!ari/scum!tw.. If Ari is indeed town it's completely ludicrous to suggest that I would randomly decide to hard push RadiantFuckingCowbells of all people to derail Ari's mislynch for virtually no fucking reason. Keep in mind he's also meta pegged me as scum who does bare minimum, and is now attempting to hard case me as scum who fights a dragon while desperately trying to derail an easy mislynch. this isn't scum!me trying to murder RC. this is always town!me.

- if you're considering just policy murdering RC & I both for shitting up the thread please just consider for a moment that he has literally 3x my postcount and I am only the fourth highest poster itt. without being hard tilted I'm pretty capable of topposting or top 5 posting without spamming the thread.

[the worst]

Aristophanes. We meet at last.
What's on your mind?

[RadiantCowbells]

This is TM

You did indeed try to lurk until I called you scum, first off. Second off I was calling you confirmed scum as well at the point you went off on me. Third off the rule has always been that it's easier to mislynch me than try to fool me.

Finally you literally claimed that you had some level of antipathy towards me that transcended alignment to defend yourself then, so turning around and saying you wouldn't do this as scum means you were lying then or lying now.

[Aristophanes]

Aristophanes. We meet at last.
What's on your mind?

Worstie! =D

I'm just thinking I should Iso players that have manageable postcounts to start and see where I get from that.
Honestly should probably start cleanslated reads-wise. I don't remember my reasoning from when the game opened for most of my reads.

Like I just read through Teacher and while he is pretty surfacy in his reads and doesn't look like he's trying to advance the game, I know that wasn't my reason for my initial read. It definitely doesn't look too good on him though.

How are you, TW?
Is there anything in particular you'd like me to look at?