Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[RadiantCowbells]

Dude I'm just fucking frustrated because if you're town you are singlehandedly a loss vector here that I can't control and if you're scum you're still a loss vector that I can't control.

[the worst]

Like not for you to give us explicitly, like should at least have like been Hmm I think x is town or y is scum

Him not even bringing up his reads but pressuring you to post in the game for the team is insane as town tbh. Like why read your game and end up with 0 reads???

Lol yeah.

Nancy also has been reading by Ari’s own posts.

The fact she hasn’t had an opinion whether she can or can’t read me is baaaaaad.

I kinda just agree with this quote chain

[Aristophanes]

And I'm doing well too! Eased off on working like a mad man and had my first driving lesson yesterday, which was actually not as scary as I've made it out to be!

Congratulations, glad you're taking care of yourself. Driving is a fair bit of fun tbh as long as you've got a good teacher/instructor.

Could you maybe ask Auro/Nancy why they don't have reads? I know scum!Nancy is by her own account kinda infamous for having low solving content so if she in particular could update us on how she's reading the game that'd help a lot.

Sure, I can do that.

And thanks! I'm hoping to like actually take care of myself this year for once

[the worst]

But sure, gimme a minute to do that since you'd rather engage with them.

Tbh we would rather engage with both

I agree with this but you’re prob scum coaching him soooooo

I'm trying not to be offended that you think I'd coach this.

[Aristophanes]

But sure, gimme a minute to do that since you'd rather engage with them.

Tbh we would rather engage with both

I agree with this but you’re prob scum coaching him soooooo

I'm trying not to be offended that you think I'd coach this.

Big oof

[MathBlade]

Dude I'm just fucking frustrated because if you're town you are singlehandedly a loss vector here that I can't control and if you're scum you're still a loss vector that I can't control.

I don’t think it’s as bad off as what you’re saying if Ari is town.

I have been VERY specific with my wording. I hope maybe you can look back and see the worlds I am considering here and why I want to lynch Ari. You have something backwards if you’re town.

And for fucks sake when you review my posts regarding you and Ari dont fucking say it.

[the worst]

No offense intended but like
I can't coach you being personally adorable
If I was coaching you I'd suggest a more flashy/momentous return

Whatever it says for your alignment you're kinda just, here getting ready to play you know? It doesn't feel like the type of opener I could see myself coaching.

[MathBlade]

Dude I'm just fucking frustrated because if you're town you are singlehandedly a loss vector here that I can't control and if you're scum you're still a loss vector that I can't control.

If he’s a scum vector we are removing it.

Win win if you’re town that is.

And if you’re right and Ari was town I will worship at the altar of RC for day two and lynch TW.

[the worst]

Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}

[MathBlade]

Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}

Only one? Is that Eddie’s opinion?

[RadiantCowbells]

Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}

lol

[the worst]

allowing that
his reads w/o partnerhunting are

{me > ico > math}
{skitter > rce > bella}
{flopz, plum, teacher, tris, xtoxm}
{ari}
{rc}

[the worst]

Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}

Only one? Is that Eddie’s opinion?

yeah

[RadiantCowbells]

yeah

[MathBlade]

Jamming with Eddie as this convo is going on
we're pretty strong on 1 scum in {rc, ari}

Only one? Is that Eddie’s opinion?

yeah

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

Can you and Eddie think about this please and let me know which case is more likely?
And if neither how does this change?

[RadiantCowbells]

He's just saying things that sound good.

[the worst]

@math, from eddie - bussing doesn't feel particularly likely and the catch-up from ari is lackluster

[MathBlade]

He's just saying things that sound good.

He’s saying things. The question becomes WHY. And if the worst is town then they’re so blinded they can’t think clearly. If he’s scum then he particularly wants the opinion there’s exactly 1 scum.

And please RC read between the lines of what I am implying here. Because I don’t want another day two bickering with you after playing defense and stop silliness all day.

[the worst]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

[RadiantCowbells]

Math there's a broader issue at play here for me

My team needs to be able to lead lynches off of perceived reliability across the 4 games because it's basically impossible to transmit cases directly from member to member.

If we lynch scum here it will help my team in all our games.

The other reason that good enough isn't for me, right now, is that we want to leverage this game into other games.

Like I get it and I see all the same things you do it's just

Hard for me to not lynch the person I am ready to claim a guilty on when NsG disagrees on Ari.

[MathBlade]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

[the worst]

and from Eddie - rc thinks ari is town? That's news to him.

[the worst]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

I'm here for less than half an hour and simultaneously working so like tbh I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not really interested in trying to read your mind.

[RadiantCowbells]

Although the 1t1s Ari/RC is pretty much completely optimal as scum

If Ari's town it gives him justification to push a Lynch on me tomorrow when my slot is more vulnerable. If Ari's scum, it means that nightkilling me and saying "well no one thought RC was scum anymore" is very palatable.

Bluntly every single member of cancel food has seen my play enough to not take "RC is wrong on everything and town" seriously and I think it makes more sense to think I'm scum regardless of Ari's flip.

[RadiantCowbells]

(not that, like, that team ever thinks that I'm scum here.)