Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[the worst]

I felt exactly that way like an hour? ago

[MathBlade]

Math there's a broader issue at play here for me

My team needs to be able to lead lynches off of perceived reliability across the 4 games because it's basically impossible to transmit cases directly from member to member.

If we lynch scum here it will help my team in all our games.

The other reason that good enough isn't for me, right now, is that we want to leverage this game into other games.

Like I get it and I see all the same things you do it's just

Hard for me to not lynch the person I am ready to claim a guilty on when NsG disagrees on Ari.

So having everyone agree you’re town and worship your reads isn’t good enough for you?

Pedit: Good thing BBMolla and Titus are here then and what I am doing is a them approved plan and not a Math approved plan. You’ll be fine RC if Ari’s town. You have my word.

[the worst]

(not that, like, that team ever thinks that I'm scum here.)

ah sweaty... : ( if you are town we got some chats postgame

[MathBlade]

Well here in spirit. They aren’t online right this second*

[Aristophanes]

Okay so I took a look at our PT and the last usage of it was to share out role PMs so that's no help

Nancy Drew has made it abundantly clear that Math is a huge town read and I agree with her.
She also said RC should know better than to scumread me like in Timeshift Mafia and I should remind him of it because it's another mislynch situation.
And that Math should lay off of RC.
And she will smack anyone who scumreads me upside the head in postgame, if that is any incentive

Nancy also was pushing a lot to give me reads and help with making posts for me and Auro was willing too. I suppose I should have taken them up on that. Alas.

Auro hasn't said much but earlier thought RC was a scum possibility for pushing me as scum without any good reason we could discern.
They also pointed me to a post or two that don't jive well if considered across the TM board but I don't know how to address that or what it means reads-wise so that's all Imma say there.

Uh, that's it. That's all I got form the team, probably because I wasn't asking for help and in fact, actively deterred them from giving it. I have always been averse to getting help so I guess that's another thing I should work on.

Anyway, that's the input so far and I asked them to give me more so there ya go.

[the worst]

eddie again:
@rc
- he considers you good, and respects your reads on some people are incredible (maria as an offhand example). but you scumread him in every game. he asks if you remember rapier, where you/he both had great reads outside of hard tunnelling each other.
- he asked nsg the questions he did because his stake in this game is town and he's never been wrong on her. he's owning that you blocking that dialogue has helped tunnel vision.
- he still thinks you're probably? scum but you're posting too much and kinda being a dick. your playstyle makes it challenging having fun in games. he asks if you can chill the fuck out.
- he also asks who you think should be leading lynches, and asks which game has a scumflip so far. if you're town, then you are good town. you should realise there's at least a 1% chance you're wrong on us.
- he still just doesn't think you're town but doesn't have it at 0%. he lists 5 townreads that he feels good about. he's trying to sort the parts of the game which don't involve you. if my slot is scum, my posting will show it. so please chill out. he needs more xtoxm/plum/tris/teacher/ari/flopz, not more rc/rc/rc/rc/rc/rc/rc. if we aren't town, we have 2 partners. if you're not town, you have two partners. let's just be respectful.

[the worst]

2304 makes sense from town!ari tho

[RadiantCowbells]

- he considers you good, and respects your reads on some people are incredible (maria as an offhand example). but you scumread him in every game. he asks if you remember rapier, where you/he both had great reads outside of hard tunnelling each other.

Whaaaat

He literally hard townread Brigitte

And I only called him scum, like, once? And hard townread him most of the game? Like I believe you that Eddie Cane said that and his disconnect from reality is NAI but man

Duck I know you know we're town and you know I know you're scum, I truly don't see the purpose in this interaction.

[RadiantCowbells]

Anything that you want to say that's not role PM can be said after game like yeah

[MathBlade]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

Still waiting for this TW.

And we can get Ari’s role PM by lynching him.

[the worst]

i don't know rapier so w/e i'll let eddie reply if he feels the need to
can you focus on the like 20 more relevant parts of that postp lsplsplsp

[the worst]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

I'm here for less than half an hour and simultaneously working so like tbh I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not really interested in trying to read your mind.

@math this still applies.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not reading you anymore and I don't see the point of engaging with you or Eddie Cane for its own sake given that you're just trying to use it as a vehicle to selfspew town.

[MathBlade]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

Still waiting for this TW.

And we can get Ari’s role PM by lynching him.

RC care to explain what’s wrong with this post?

[the worst]

I'm not reading you anymore and I don't see the point of engaging with you or Eddie Cane for its own sake given that you're just trying to use it as a vehicle to selfspew town.

i'm not sure what your issue with me alignment spewing is dude

[RadiantCowbells]

Because if I'm town he's saying my reads suck when I was the one who called out Ari on the second page of the game and he (correctly) disputes the assertion that I ever townread Ari from now to then, so he would essentially be calling me bad for scumreading scum on page 2.

[RadiantCowbells]

I'm not reading you anymore and I don't see the point of engaging with you or Eddie Cane for its own sake given that you're just trying to use it as a vehicle to selfspew town.

i'm not sure what your issue with me alignment spewing is dude

I have

ZERO issue with it

Just leave me out of it lol

[RadiantCowbells]

Like I'm not telling you "u can't try as scum because I know you're scum".
I'm telling you you can't use me as a vehicle to spew yourself town because I have no interest in engaging with it.

[the worst]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

Reread this and tell me what’s wrong with your post TW.

Still waiting for this TW.

And we can get Ari’s role PM by lynching him.

RC care to explain what’s wrong with this post?

oh i used too many pronouns and the alignments in the second half don't make sense

reads better as:
This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck. If {ari} is [scum] this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari, if {rc} is scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

[MathBlade]

So Eddie is assuming RC’s reads are trash and Ari is scum (which is odd)
Or that RC scum decides not to push Ari mislynch? Which again is odd.

This one's tw: we already know if rc is town his reads suck.

If he is town this doesn't feel like he's bussing ari,

if he's scum then no I don't think he can readily opportunistically gun for an Ari mislynch without surrendering a fair bit of standing in this plist

What about now?

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean

I honestly think him calling me bad in a hypothetical universe where I pretty obviously am 2/2 on scum with 1 incorrect read on him is worse than what you pointed out.

[MathBlade]

I mean

I honestly think him calling me bad in a hypothetical universe where I pretty obviously am 2/2 on scum with 1 incorrect read on him is worse than what you pointed out.

Man I wish Skitter was here.

I need someone who is actually town online.

[the worst]

i used too many pronouns and the alignments in the second half don't make sense

dw mathb i gotchu

i wrote the sentence backwards while commuting, my reworded version makes a lot more sense if you want to talk about that

[the worst]

from eddie
it was tom who said that rc's reads suck [true]
but fhpov rc's strongest scumread is on town so they're clearly not perfect

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean

I honestly think him calling me bad in a hypothetical universe where I pretty obviously am 2/2 on scum with 1 incorrect read on him is worse than what you pointed out.

Man I wish Skitter was here.

I need someone who is actually town online.

Do you think I'm scum? Idk what to say, lol.