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Post Post #3000 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:26 pm

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Duck claimed vt.
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Post Post #3001 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:26 pm

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....how
It's literally explaining that she likes your style but you're annoying as hell

PSA you are likeable but annoying as hell in this game

I'm pretty sure my cat could post that
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Post Post #3002 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:27 pm

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Like with really good scumplayers you're not looking for what they CAN'T do as scum

You're looking for what they wouldn't do as scum

And if you could do that then it makes sense to do it but if she can't she's just town, if that makes sense?
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Post Post #3003 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:28 pm

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Ok does anyone not feel that TW is being pretty intellectually dishonest with regards to his reducing Plums post to likeable but annoying as hell?
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Post Post #3004 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:28 pm

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Ico RC also claimed Detective.
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Post Post #3005 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:29 pm

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I did that a very long time ago.
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Post Post #3006 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:29 pm

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In post 3002, RadiantCowbells wrote:Like with really good scumplayers you're not looking for what they CAN'T do as scum

You're looking for what they wouldn't do as scum

And if you could do that then it makes sense to do it but if she can't she's just town, if that makes sense?
No. It doesn’t. Because the answer to that should always be nothing or it’s a trust tell.
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Post Post #3007 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:31 pm

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No, because scum are trying to win and sometimes townies do things that simply don't make sense from an informed perspective if they're good enough to understand the game. For example I said that FL was town in the Plotinus newbie because if he were scum he wouldn't be lurking. He absolutely had the power to lurk if he chose, but he just wouldn't be.
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Post Post #3008 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:31 pm

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In post 3007, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, because scum are trying to win and sometimes townies do things that simply don't make sense from an informed perspective if they're good enough to understand the game. For example I said that FL was town in the Plotinus newbie because if he were scum he wouldn't be lurking. He absolutely had the power to lurk if he chose, but he just wouldn't be.
Then as town Plot should lurk or as scum Plot should be more active.
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Post Post #3009 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:32 pm

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I don't give a shit about some easily fakable post like 2500+ posts go fucking hell she www spectacularly wolfy earlier in this irl day and I'd like input on that
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Post Post #3010 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:33 pm

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In post 3008, MathBlade wrote:
In post 3007, RadiantCowbells wrote:No, because scum are trying to win and sometimes townies do things that simply don't make sense from an informed perspective if they're good enough to understand the game. For example I said that FL was town in the Plotinus newbie because if he were scum he wouldn't be lurking. He absolutely had the power to lurk if he chose, but he just wouldn't be.
Then as town Plot should lurk or as scum Plot should be more active.
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Post Post #3011 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:34 pm

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Anywho we have lost the point. Teacher do you need anything else before ending the day?
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Post Post #3012 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:34 pm

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regardless appreciate that's a fine approach to scumrange/meta analysis RC

I still maintain the post you quoted is extremely easily fakable and Plum made some pretty damn wolfy posts in a high pressure gamestate today
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Post Post #3013 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:35 pm

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Wow

FL certainly has a microscopic scumrange

These takes are off the fuckin heezy
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Post Post #3014 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:36 pm

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I mean 3007 sure as shit doesn't treat him like a three dimensional player :lol:
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Post Post #3015 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:36 pm

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And if you FoS Ari and RC Ro3 has Plum in both sets.
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Post Post #3016 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:37 pm

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I mean.

Everyone has a narrow scumrange

You just have to be looking at the right metrics.
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Post Post #3017 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:37 pm

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In post 3015, MathBlade wrote:And if you FoS Ari and RC Ro3 has Plum in both sets.
Ari nooo ari is town
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Post Post #3018 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:39 pm

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hey the worst

hope all is well

Why do you think Ari unvoted, and not voted somewhere else (like one of his scumreads?)
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Post Post #3019 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:40 pm

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I'll give you an answer: because he doesn't really have scumreads.

This is true regardless of his alignment.
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Post Post #3020 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:42 pm

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Yeah no
VOTE: rc
idk why I tried again you're scum fuck you et cereta

lynch me (optional) => rc => plum
assuming two red reevaluate bella
otherwise rc still red so just reevaluate accordingly
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Post Post #3021 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:42 pm

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lol
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Post Post #3022 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:43 pm

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i doubt scum!RC burns up his credit for your mislynch, duck?
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Post Post #3023 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:43 pm

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Oh you meant Ari not me
#3020 still applies just less enthusiastically

@Ico indeed I don't think Ari has his reads sorted properly yet
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Post Post #3024 (ISO) » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:44 pm

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Were you just fishing to see if this was, like, an OkaPoka in BP situation where I was pushing you to get you to fk off but I'd unvote if you unvoted? It's not lol.
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