Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[the worst]

>: (
I'm still really not comfortable having the seal running around causing more chaos day two pals.

[Iconeum]

Only this is pretty much RC to the heart. If you (we in general) lynch him here for causing chaos, then we'd have to do that every single game he's in. Because this is RC. He does this.

And I'm not fully convinced you actually scumread him.

[the worst]

I wish I was cool enough to fake scumreading him this long. I don't have a dedicated PC at the moment - can only do so much on work laptop and causing via mobile is a nightmare. I can't do crazy hyperduck 24/7 but that doesn't lessen the fact he's scum.

I get the chaos thing is a common factor of RC's playstyle but this time it's all either completely baseless or riddled with contradictions and blatant misrepresentations. Town!RC uses the chaos to sort. He's like a storm. What's he doing here? Using chaos to make me look weaker.

He feels obvscum to me dragon.

[Plum]

Hot (like in dragonfire hot) take:

Lynching the worst (if he flips town), will lead straight to the lynching of RC, who will probably also flip town. This is the easiest and quickest path to a scum victory, taking out 2 of (what i consider) the strongest players in the game.

I feel like lynching either on D1 comes from fear of what they might do to town if let alive, something I'm feeling myself. But I can't justify a lynch on either of them based on fear.

Do you have a plan to rescue the gamestate from them if they are both Town? Personally I think if they are both Town they will keep doing this pretty much no matter who we lynch and what Night looks like; if they are Town they have consigned us to Hell and this is the worst TM of all

but if you have ideas and you really read them both as Town, by all means

but actually if you look here Ari makes a good point especially in light of

>: (
I'm still really not comfortable having the seal running around causing more chaos day two pals.

Wasn't this a strong 1v1 a moment ago? Now it's angryface cuteDuck But He's Going to Keep Causing Chaos?

[the worst]

the worst (6): tris, skitter30, RadiantCowbells, Plum, MathBlade, Flopz

(edited to include flopz' l-1)
wouldn't you guys just look at this lovely pure wagon ~ this must be all town I haven't seen such a wonderfully motivated wagon for a long time

[the worst]

Wasn't this a strong 1v1 a moment ago? Now it's angryface cuteDuck But He's Going to Keep Causing Chaos?

I am a friendly duckie by nature and I'm exhausted. I don't think I have the empathy/emotional capacity/social capital to angrypost aorn. That doesn't mean that I'm not still indignant that a really obvious scumbag is pushing for my mislynch.

There a reason you're more focused on my tonality than the small mountain of consistent valuable content I've dropped since your vote?

[Plum]

I'm awake now

[Plum]

Also no

I'm interested in what Ari pointed out

[the worst]

He pointed a few interesting things out. What caught your eye?

[Plum]

duck: 1v1 me rc you're obvscum
also duck: voting outside is is stupid
also also duck: why would i ever start a 1v1 i'm going to lose
also also also duck: we're not ending this 1v1 today even if it means my lynch just lynch rc d2 easy game
also also also also duck: VOTE: plum

Well this is interesting!

[Iconeum]

hah

I'm also interested in what ari pointed out there…

But more specifically why he didn't say anything other then 'interesting'

[the worst]

I'm also slightly intrigued.

[Xtoxm]

gonna be honest, haven't started reading those 40+ pages yet

but who in this game is AGAINST lynching the duck today? Or has openly spoken against his lynch?

hi

[Iconeum]

Spoiler:

Like fuck asking explicitly for reads

I know Auro read and you claim Nancypants read

And you're claiming that neither of them expressed a single read???

Like not for you to give us explicitly, like should at least have like been Hmm I think x is town or y is scum

Him not even bringing up his reads but pressuring you to post in the game for the team is insane as town tbh. Like why read your game and end up with 0 reads???

Lol yeah.

Nancy also has been reading by Ari’s own posts.

The fact she hasn’t had an opinion whether she can or can’t read me is baaaaaad.

he's not a fucking town investigative
he knows he isn't getting lynched and wants an excuse not to get nk'd

Literally the worst logic:::::

RC claimed investigative... because he wanted an excuse to not get NKed

Let me repeat that.

RC claimed investigative because he wanted an excuse to not get NKed.

And, uh, this isn't the D1 Lynch? How?

literally the entirety of cancel food thinks you are scum and wants you dead lmfao

Caught up to page 93 ish

Posts of interest in the spoiler

I'm actually fine lynching Ari
If that flips scum, TW is next

[Iconeum]

Especially the worst's last post in that spoiler really bothers me

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Ari

[Iconeum]

gonna be honest, haven't started reading those 40+ pages yet

but who in this game is AGAINST lynching the duck today? Or has openly spoken against his lynch?

hi

Lynch Ari?

[Iconeum]

I mean, I know bussing is anti-wincon for you but can you help out?

[Iconeum]

Xtoxm hasn't expressed a single read, hasn't had a single reaction to ANY of this game's events, and is still voting RC from back in RVS

How are you town here?

[Bellaphant]

@math , I really do think Ico and plum are town, but a lot of it is a tone/vibe thing.

A plum wagon seems kinda desperate and weird.

[MathBlade]

I think so too as my top team is TW/RC/Ari

Just solving in case that is wrong. I have gut feels duck is town but this day needs to end. I prefer an Ari lynch but not going to sacrifice a lynch today to do it.

I am afk most of today.

[skitter30]

Like 25 pages sprung up overnight

The tw/rc/ari thint has been going on for like 70 pages now

This kinda needs to end

I think i'm changing my mind on ico, he's probably town

I think that a tw/rc/ari solve is kinda ridiculous, but there's at least one scum in tw/rc and we need a flip there imo

[teacher]

math, I’d rather Ari though I get the desire for the day to end.

Can you or skit talk to me about RC’s new position that tw and ari are both scum // respond to 2647 and 2757?

I’d also like skit to react to this if she sees it before then too.

@skit can you hit this up and then I’ll hammer this evening? Thx.

[skitter30]

Ok a few things:

1. I dont independantly townread ari but working him into a tw/rc team just like ... doesnt work rn. If rc is scum with him ... he almost got him to a lynch and then backed off, and if he had decided to bus i dont think he'd give up on the plan halfway, if rc is scum he always outlives ari and he'll look awful whenever ari eventually flips and he just knows how to handle associatives better than that. If tw is scum with him ... tw decides to pick a fight with rc to protect ari of all people ? Like idk i dont think he does that (no offense ari).

2. Ari at this point is like muddled with tw/rc and the associatives dont really make sense so i kinda want to sort out tw/rc first and then return to ari

3. Tw's interactions with ari feel buddying-y, and i think it worked

4. Rc is being ridiculous rn, and i think he's gotten to the point where 'if they arent siding with me i will sr them', and i think that is at least in part fueling the current ari thing

5. I think that tw/rc are not tvt - i refuse to believe that this is scum theater and that either of them would purposefully do this to the thread (more accurately scum!rc i can see doing with a partner, i dont think tw would). And if they're tvt ... there's like nobody egging this on, it's just been the two of them fueling this for forever. I think they are both commited/tunneled and dont particularly care of the outcome of this so long as they get the lynch they want

6. At this point i'm prioritizing unfucking the gamestate over a scumflip because ... i just cant do my job in this gamestate. I can handle a lot and keep up with a lot, but i've reached my limit and regardless of either of their alignments i just cant scumhunt effectively like thus, i cant even keep up really. I tried to play mediator, i tried to divert the gamestate into a more positive direction, but i just cant do it anymore, and my nightmare scenario at this point is day2 looking exactly like today

7. Like 50 pages ago, flipping ari would have been the best way to do that, but given how the tw/rc thing has developed i dont think that ari is the best way to go about this anymore

8. Since rc is willing to be bop'd on tw today i think of the two it's smarter to go that way. Also tbh considering lynching him is just more energy than i think i have rn. Also i think there's a p good chance town!rc gets resolved via nk despite this, and i dont think town!tw does, so if i have to pick one i'd rather the person who is unlikely to be resolved in other ways. I didnt really want either but i feel like they've forced this into 'me or him' and this is my best solution to the situation

9. If tw flips town and rc is alive tomorrow i think i am just going to vote him because this is ridiculous and i'm starting to hate how he is holding the game hostage. If tw is scum and rc is alive tomorrow i guess he gets another lynch but i really hope he's less ~this~ about it because i kinda hate how he's running this game rn. And if he just dies we can all just move past this so ngl there is a part of me secretly hoping for this outcome

I hope that explains where i'm at
I'm aware that most of my considerations here are not directly trying to get a scumflip, i'm more trying to get the game back on track in a way that will enable me and i hope everyine else to actually play the game

Idk i hope that answers your question, that's the best answer i know how to give rn

[teacher]

intent - 4hrs.

Speak or hold it.