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Post Post #2875 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:10 am

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Votecount 2.02
Hectic (2) -
OkaPoka, NaCl
Elsa Jay (2) -
Amrun, unwnd
OkaPoka (1) -
DrDolittle
bob3141 (1) -
pisskop

Not Voting (7) -
Eddie Cane, Titus, Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, Hectic, bob3141, Nancy Drew 39

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).
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Post Post #2876 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:11 am

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what is with the site that 50% of my posts fail :-(

im going back to making them in word so that i have back up
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Post Post #2877 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:12 am

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If you hit the back button after it doesn't work, it usually brings up the page with your text there.
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Post Post #2878 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:13 am

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Dont think rule of three is valid anymore
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Post Post #2879 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:13 am

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In post 2874, Something_Smart wrote:What was he saying overnight?

He said that he had his catchup post half written and that he would drop it in there when its done in case he died. But by the looks of it night ended before it was finished.
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Post Post #2880 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:13 am

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Thanks for the carry, guys. I totally knew Pops was scum btw; I was just testing you all.

Pine kill is ???, i was even more certain about him being scum after seeing the popsflip.
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Post Post #2881 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:14 am

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He thought it was tvt.
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Post Post #2882 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:21 am

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In post 2842, NaCl wrote:VOTE: Hectic
My opinion of him has decreased after the pops scumflip. It kind of feels like most of D1 was soft-defending Pops. Like every read on Pops he gave was more or less "Pops is firmly town but I'm not going to try to derail the wagon." But more or less I feel a lot better about having most of a town core and I think that this is a good way to go.
I wasn't soft-defending her, I'm pretty sure I said multiple times "pops is a mislynch" and "this flips town, guys". I wasn't trying to be secretive about it; I was just wrong.
I suppose I could've voted Eddie/Krazy who were competing wagons if I
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didn't want Pops to be lynched, but I was townleaning/reading both and was still confident on Pine being scum.
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Post Post #2883 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:24 am

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@Pissy: Could you explain again why I'm scum because of meta? You ignored me before.

@Nancy: Has Elsa given reads/thoughts in the hood, or has it been non-game related?
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Post Post #2884 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:27 am

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In post 2841, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 2812, Amrun wrote:VOTE: Elsa

When it was pops being wagoner, she tried to pretend she would never lolhammer, oh me oh my hold onto my bonnet, despite actively trying to lolhammer Hectic earlier.
I didn't lolhammer, I stated intent with the caviet if someone elsa voted I would hammer, therefore it wasn't a lol. You guys also can't seem to read my jokes as well.

Also ignoring the fact she was scum but okay.
I re-read and can see it from this perspective. Plus A50 on my team thinks you’re town and picked up on your neighborhood when I didn’t. I seem to have trouble interpreting your playstyle.

A50 and I were convinced pine was scum before he flipped. A50 thinks pisskop/Titus is the scumteam. I don’t really agree with him but his reads deserve to be shared. He has more detail but I’m at work and will have to get into them later.


Because I can...

I’ve been thinking.

VOTE: bob[/bob]

Bob was Pine’s neighbor. Maybe he was onto bob in there, or bob feared he would be. Bob fear kills as scum.

I retract my townread from yesterday on bob. I also didn’t really like his questions today - they were a little busywork. When I like bob’s questions, he’s a lot more likely to be town.
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Post Post #2885 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:27 am

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Lmao
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From either perspective of &
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Post Post #2886 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:28 am

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Damn yo.

VOTE: bob[/bob]
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Post Post #2887 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:28 am

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[bob]vote[/bob]
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Post Post #2888 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:29 am

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LOL


VOTE: bob

Clearly distracted at work sorreeee not totally caught up
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Post Post #2889 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:32 am

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Okay, so I'm liking Amrun, Bob, and Krazy's rep for town based on Pop being scum.

SS is someone who parked early on Pops but didn't push her much. He made passing comments where he answered Eddie but nothing else. Someone mentioned this might be a playstyle thing? Please clarify.
In post 1709, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1705, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Her actually referencing Doc rolecop shots is weird.
Right, because for Eddie outing the hood to have actually helped scum, they would have to both be town... but she voted him in that post so clearly she didn't think that.

Yeah, that's pretty nasty.
In post 1710, Something_Smart wrote:VOTE: pops
I don't like these reasons for scumreading her. Her argument wasn't based on that, it was based on Eddie caring more about being right over playing optimally, which she thought was a scum-indicative thing.
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Post Post #2890 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:45 am

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I'm confused on the Bob scumread. The BobVPops thing came at a time where the Pops wagon was close to Pine and Eddie's, and that argument made Pops look bad imo, and took her wagon further out of sight.
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Post Post #2891 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:53 am

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VOTE: Elsa Jay
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Post Post #2892 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:19 am

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I still remember you almost being lynched, so I guess I'll just wait it out.

Do you think I bussed Pops at the end then? Because if I was scum I think I would've been more invested in the game and tried to help her out or distance myself better.
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Post Post #2893 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:26 am

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In post 1726, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1716, OkaPoka wrote:dude i really think its pine/piss/pops agh
I like the alliteration.

VOTE: Pops
In post 2392, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Eddie

Eh. From what I've read, I don't like Eddie much. So I'll recontribute again day 2 but for now I'm okay with your lynch.
In post 2679, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Pops

Blood for the Sausage God.
Well, you gave no reasons for voting pops in the first post. Though that's some real lazy bussing if you're scum buddies. And your switch to Eddie brought Pops down to 4 votes, and Eddie up to 4, so I could see that as a last ditch effort to see if you guys could lynch Eddie over her.
And the last one was the hammer(?) when the Pops lynch was all but decided.
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Post Post #2894 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:27 am

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armum what does skitter think of my slot

Also what do you think of nancy slot
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Post Post #2895 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:27 am

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Memals top two scum reads are piskop and nancy
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Post Post #2896 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:37 am

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In post 1715, pisskop wrote:VOTE: pops
In post 1751, pisskop wrote:my solve is heckboy/popsof-inscum/pairbondedpoisons with an outside flex of okapolka
In post 1985, pisskop wrote:while im not sold on pops being scum, I think there's merit in it.
while im not sure about eddie either, Ive progressed in reads from 'oh so eddie is a middling poster, maybe town' to 'oh, this guy talks like he has some skelebones in his closet.'
In post 1987, pisskop wrote:that weird interaction wrt the boasting in the hood and pops not vioting eddie until now tho. whats up pops? y no vote b4?
In post 1990, pisskop wrote:
VOTE: eddie

ill revote to flip pops, but I think this is the new flavor of the week.
In post 2439, pisskop wrote:
In post 2434, unwnd wrote:
In post 2432, Hectic wrote:OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?
Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?
I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs
In post 2452, pisskop wrote:
In post 2448, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2439, pisskop wrote:
In post 2434, unwnd wrote:
In post 2432, Hectic wrote:OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?
Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?
I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs
Based on?
Which one?

Eddie v pops is because they share a hood, eddie is trolling, and pops is admittedly acting funny.

Krazy is town because they feel and contribuite like it. I have no meta on Krazy, but like their play. Their early game was weak, but the stuff from before he voted eddie is gold.
In post 2577, pisskop wrote:Krazy Pops has a nice ring to it tho!

VOTE: salt
In post 2580, pisskop wrote:I think pops might be town tbh. Theyre reads are consistent.

I dont recall pops' scumgame. Anyone have an insight?
In post 2646, pisskop wrote:VOTE: pops

baby
In post 2647, pisskop wrote:Pops if you flip red im going to be a sad panda.
Pissy's progression on Pops is interesting. Starts of voting her early but then switches to Eddie and then NaCl soon after while still throwing shade on Pops. Also says Eddie is trolling and Pops is admittedly acting funny while on Eddie and not Pops. I could see this as scum early bussing then trying to save their buddy late on. The vote at the end was when the Pops lynch was decided I think.
Though the NaCl vote is weird. He says Pops might be town and votes NaCl which is kind of an odd counterwagon choice since Eddie was the main viable wagon there.
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Post Post #2897 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 2894, bob3141 wrote:armum what does skitter think of my slot

Also what do you think of nancy slot
I’ll have to ask her, not sure.

Yesterday I thought Nancy was town. I need to re-evaluate in light of flips. I haven’t done any re-reading yet because I very seriously believed I would be NK.
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Post Post #2898 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:40 am

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In post 2893, Hectic wrote:
In post 1726, Elsa Jay wrote:
In post 1716, OkaPoka wrote:dude i really think its pine/piss/pops agh
I like the alliteration.

VOTE: Pops
In post 2392, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Eddie

Eh. From what I've read, I don't like Eddie much. So I'll recontribute again day 2 but for now I'm okay with your lynch.
In post 2679, Elsa Jay wrote:VOTE: Pops

Blood for the Sausage God.
Well, you gave no reasons for voting pops in the first post. Though that's some real lazy bussing if you're scum buddies. And your switch to Eddie brought Pops down to 4 votes, and Eddie up to 4, so I could see that as a last ditch effort to see if you guys could lynch Eddie over her.
And the last one was the hammer(?) when the Pops lynch was all but decided.
The first vote is a joke vote, I even explained the joke in said post.

The second vote was indeed making sure Eddie and Pops had equal votes so a wagon could swing either way, thereby giving us the chance to see who tried to swing it one way or the other.

The third vote I stated intent and there was like 20 hours left. Did you expect me to hold the game back by saying "NO don't lynch pops"? Plus from my casual reading of the game Pops didn't do anything townie to stick out.
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Post Post #2899 (ISO) » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:59 am

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VOTE: pisskop
i changed my mind
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