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[Ankamius]

why am I always expected to lead

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t worry, I’ll be back soon.

[Ankamius]

ok, legit

I'm in a state where I think I have an ok idea of what the game state looks like, I have a PoE I'm willing to work from and no real reason to deviate from it because nobody is doing anything to shake up the game or really do anything other than what's on the agenda itself; which is pretty funny considering that's what I'm being suspected for this time

I'm finding it likely that the scumteam are trying to make the game either stall out completely or create a general state where scumhunting is more prohibitive than it normally would be even with how stagnant the game was on day one:

1. Farkran, the single biggest slot pushing the game forward, the slot being the aggressor in the most ways, and the slot that was most widely townread, was killed night one.
2. There's no strong pushes towards anything but the same slots that there have been pushes in yesterday; namely EP/nomnomnom/myself, with Volxen obviously being a newer one but hardly more exciting than the stale wagons of yesterday
3. half the playerlist hasn't even posted in close to a day or longer

obviously the modkill had something to do with the game stalling out, but it really goes to show how LITERALLY ONE SLOT can cause the game to screech to a halt by not being there while the same shit keeps being pushed as yesterday

that's a sign that there's unresolved tension in the game that needs to be resolved in some way before the game can truly move on, and to put it bluntly, I don't see any good way to go about that except to go along with what's happening right now since I'm literally townreading the majority of the people that are actively here.

Ankamius - cancel food

Dr Easy Bake - The Maurauders

Flavor Leaf - Wild Cards

davesaz - Busboy Revolution

chennisden - Quick Attack

Vex Vience - Doomsday

Volxen - Derp Wolves

MariaR - Ripple's Krazy Mistress Dunn

Gammagooey - Old Hat

DeasVail - The Lit Torches

kuribo - The Four Horsement

GuyInFreezer - Bird That Carries You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap

Volpe14 - Tea Gathering Club

EspressoPatronum - Newb Kids on the Block

Almost50 - You Over a Disproportionately Small Gap

nomnomnom - SubOptimal Math

this is still where I'm at:

I'm town because obviously
Flavor Leaf is town because I've seen the shit he pulls from other games, and the general sense I get from his posting is that there isn't a uniform agenda behind it; his chaos is more chaotic and less controlled chaos
davesaz is town because I've liked his takes and I've gotten the sense from past games that he focuses on random bullshit that doesn't mean anything when he's scum; I don't get that sense at all this game (albeit I'm less familiar with him than other players here and so it's a weaker townread)
chennisden is town because I'm not really seeing an agenda in his posting; this is one read I'm taking a liberty on since I can see him stepping back as scum after creating this monstrosity, but I'm not willing to humor that at this point since flipping him would be a very risky snipe if he's town for essentially no benefit if he's scum outside of the scumflip (which anyone who knows me knows I don't inherently value)
Vex Vience I can believe is trying and is just getting hung up based on outside factors; it's another liberty but he's nowhere near as egregious as other slots (although I kinda would like a transcription of his notes)
MariaR is town because she's had generally good takes and is trying to push the game forward, plus she reminds me of starry night; I'll reconsider this later if I absolutely have to but I kinda get the feeling that she's going to get paranoia'd some other day down the line and I really just don't want to accelerate that because it really isn't at all productive
Gamma is town because I've liked his takes; weaker townread but I think he's a net positive for the thread regardless and the thread needs that more than an accurate read on him since it will make him more readable regardless later
kuribo is town because I don't see scum!him having this overall approach to the game
Volpe is town because I strongly doubt scum!volpe ever interacts with me like he has throughout the game
Almost50 is town because his thought process is consistent and he's not doing really convoluted shit to try to look busy

so who's left is:
nomnomnom, EspressoPatronum -> stale scumreads from day one
Volxen -> new scumread and one that I was pushing before anybody else in the thread but apparently me not being on him is weird now and is liable to give skitter an aneurysm if a50 is to be believed
Dr Easy Bake -> who the fuck knows with him, I don't even remember how I caught him in vengeful ghosts
GIF -> my very old experiences (like 2014 old) was that I'd just know he was town when he was town; I don't KNOW that he's town now and I feel like that should still be valid if he's tryharding; plus I still think the way he handled the neighborhood thing was really off somehow and it pings my intuition every time I think about it
DeasVail -> not getting townvibes from his posting and I didn't like that I reached out to him and got only lukewarm responses... and then got scumread for dropping it, plus I don't get the same impression from him that I did in starry night

so what exactly do I need to do that's not "following the leader" or "sounding like myself," because what I'm seeing is a gamestate that is both stalled to fuck and back as well as not seeing any good way to save it since I strongly doubt that steering the course away from where it's going will work with how inactive a lot of slots are (and that the PoE includes slots that have done essentially nothing), and I really doubt that it's even fixable without having a fresh set of flips to reset people away from the modkill and give more of an ability to solve for different slots

I get that people think I'm some amazing town player and it's generally more enticing to try to sort me than a lot of other players, but I really struggle to work in games where I don't see an effective out for what the issues in the game are; the only real difference is that I'm blowing up the thread with sarcasm and annoyance rather than outright anger and scorn

I'm okay with leaving the thread where it is because I frankly don't see a town willing to put the effort in to save it, and there's very little I'm going to be willing to do when the game is full of players that are either townreading all the same players and/or focusing almost entirely on the same 3-4 slots or just outright not playing the game; I'm not here to carry town, because I don't believe that it's a good way to play the game in general, I'm here essentially to keep the game onto a track where town is going to win in the long run

prove that you guys really want to win and I'll be more interested in taking an active stance in the game; until then, I'm going to be sitting back and watching until shit happens or my team gets around to catching up with this game

and ftr, 2 of them find this game boring and the third has yet to say anything about it, so don't count on the latter

[Almost50]

@Ank:

I don't see anyone else asking what my post meant, so I guess it's you and your team that have a problem there.

Fortunately for you, I'm in a relatively good mood, so I'll be kind and explain it as if you were 4 years, 11 months and 29 days old!

We had a wagon building up on Volxen. One that has been pocking up momentum. One that has been mainly advised by skitter who also put the blame on you for not pushing that.

And -all of a sudden- your high school crush on nomnom is back in town and you have all the hots for it once more.

In other words, the timing of you reigniting your love-hate affair with nom doesn't bode well with me. It looks very much like a deliberate attempt to suck the power from the Volxen wagon and redirect it to a nomnom wagon instead. It feels like you are shielding Volxen by pushing nom again at this precise time.

Now if you still don't get it, I'd probably still could try to target your brain at a lower age..

Spoiler:

[Ankamius]

...but nom engaged me on my read of her and the vote was a direct response to that engagement???

[kuribo]

I had a minute so I dumbed down even more what A50 and I seem to both be trying to say

[Ankamius]

thanks kuribo

[kuribo]

Helping people is what I do for a living Ank

[Ankamius]

I appreciate you

[kuribo]

Well it's about damn time someone round here did

[nomnomnom]

Why are we talking about my discussion with Ank like it's a lesbian porn scene about to blow up wtf a50

[nomnomnom]

Also again I think Ank's more town for that vote on me so I think that's sorted from me.

[kuribo]

Why are we talking about my discussion with Ank like it's a lesbian porn scene about to blow up wtf a50

It's not as bad as all that



And I say that as someone who writes and sells that kinda stuff

[nomnomnom]

Wow I can't believe my eyes

[Almost50]

Why are we talking about my discussion with Ank like it's a lesbian porn scene about to blow up wtf a50

Hold on hold on hold on... I better go slip into my AP suit if I'm gonna be watching this.

[Ankamius]

Why are we talking about my discussion with Ank like it's a lesbian porn scene about to blow up wtf a50

lmao

thanks, I needed that laugh

[Gammagooey]

@Anka - Mostly just want to let you know that I appreciate your thoughts on the gamestate + your scumreads atm

I kinda disagree with your opinion that the game's stalled out as opposed to just running a bit slower while we wait for several generally scumread players and a few others to actually play the game and/or catch up in reading (Espresso and DEB both have questions I asked them to answer even if they somehow can't find anything else to post about in 100+ pages, GIF and Vex have both said they're many pages behind) but I can def. see how that would cause you to be a bit more follow the leader than normal

Soon all the lurkos will have to post and actually get scrutinized for it while the game is still chill and it will be

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@Mods: Prod Dr. Easy Bake please

[Flavor Leaf]

Wow

I can

’t

believe my eyes

The world’s filled with black and white

[Flavor Leaf]

Wow

I can

’t

not believe my eyes

The world’s filled with black and white

[Flavor Leaf]

Where we at fools. Need me to push someone?

[Gammagooey]

Where we at fools. Need me to push someone?

voting someone would be a great start

how do you feel about volxen?

[Flavor Leaf]

I forgot he was in this game before you guys started talking about him.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, I think I saw a post of his and was like “totally forgot about him”

[nomnomnom]

Just sheep Skitt on this one, FL. It's better for all of us. Plus if Volxen is scum, Volpe is scum too and that's another easy push.

[chennisden]

On skim I think a50 and nom feel aligned