Team Mafia 2020 Normal Game: Scum PT

[skitter30]

i'm back

[skitter30]

ah sorry for not being here. Oka Poka said that we should kill him because if we couldn't lynch him yesterday we wouldn't be able to lynch him the future, but i don't think i agree with that.

we werent't trying to lynch him yesterday tho, that's the thing

i think his cred will be sufficiently reduced and that he might (?) be lynchable anyways

i'm more scared that he'll do a total reset and hard tunnel one of us

my best guess is that he will not necessarily have the cred to bully people into what he wants, esp. after how yesterday went down and i oppose him

but i'm scared of being very wrong

[skitter30]

I don't i should claim loyal neighborizer on skitter, because I wouldn't use it skitter because i already townread her.

would you use it on rce ?

[skitter30]

if i were town loyal neighborizer, i would probably actually neighborize you.

why do you think it would make us both suspicious?

what about if you were a disloyal neighborizer ?

[skitter30]

I'll think about this. The group hood thing changes a lot. I dont hate the gambit tying yourself to me, since i prefer doing something rather nothing , but it is high risk. Skitter has to solo endgame if it goes wrong.

fwiw i would much much much rather try to win this in 7way than 3way

my energy/motivation tends to flag as the game goes on as scum, especially if it's all on me

[tris]

I don't i should claim loyal neighborizer on skitter, because I wouldn't use it skitter because i already townread her.

would you use it on rce ?

maybe

[Xtoxm]

ah sorry for not being here. Oka Poka said that we should kill him because if we couldn't lynch him yesterday we wouldn't be able to lynch him the future, but i don't think i agree with that.

we werent't trying to lynch him yesterday tho, that's the thing

i think his cred will be sufficiently reduced and that he might (?) be lynchable anyways

i'm more scared that he'll do a total reset and hard tunnel one of us

my best guess is that he will not necessarily have the cred to bully people into what he wants, esp. after how yesterday went down and i oppose him

but i'm scared of being very wrong

Idk. People have a habit of tr him for no reason, and we know blacklists failed this game so a lot of people that dont like what he does to games aren't here. I think it's possible thanks to the worst but itll still be hard.

I'm also worried if hes really a detective, and scans me, then he'll just have to be killed the next night anyway.

[skitter30]

how crazy do *you* think it is to keep rc alive?

pedit @tris

[skitter30]

Idk. People have a habit of tr him for no reason, and we know blacklists failed this game so a lot of people that dont like what he does to games aren't here. I think it's possible thanks to the worst but itll still be hard.

i think that most people kinda hate how he plays now, irregardless of what they felt before the game started

(also the blacklists didn't work because i had blacklisted him and i'm in the game)

i'm kinda envisioning that if we don't lynch him tom we just nk him tom night

but i think that on balance the chaos he induces is better for us than having a quiescent gamestate

and town will have less time to get their act together days 3/4 (and will find it harder to do so) after two days of rc's wild ride than just one
they'll have more time to get back on track if we nk him tonight

idk

i think the medium risk - high reward play is keeping him alive
and the low risk low reward play is nk'ing him

and i'm leaning towards the former but i'm aware it can backfire spectacularly so if you lot don't want to we wont

[skitter30]

like i'm p scared of it backfiring
but if it works it will be ~so awesome~

[tris]

how crazy do *you* think it is to keep rc alive?

pedit @tris

i kind of want to do that.

do we have the numbers? do you think?

[skitter30]

us 3 + i think math for sure

i think (?) we can pick up another two votes given the townflip but i'm not *positive*

like i just don't want to promise more than i can deliver
but i think that another two votes is doable given how yesterday went down and the paranoia that will start festering that he isn't dead and the fact taht i don't think people will take too kindly to him trying to dictate the game again

he just might go out screaming that at least one of us are scum tho
idk where his mind will go when he reevaluates

[Xtoxm]

Hes definitely an agent of chaos and that part of things is helping us.

I just dont have a good pr lead elsewhere.

[skitter30]

like i can't promise an rc mislynch

i think it's doable oddly enough

(these are not words that i ever thought i'd be writing as scum, but there you go)

i'm nervous of it backfiring if i can't make it happen and i've never tried something so ~large scale~ as scum before
but if i'm reading the thread right i think we can swing it

[skitter30]

yeah like it just feels like a waste to lose that chaos

i feel like if people have the chance to regroup and not focus on whatever rc is going on about, they'll start turning to the lurkers ....
and like start thinking rationally again

or like notice that i hadn't scumhunted for real in like 50 pages

[Xtoxm]

Keeping him gives me a great excuse to keep being a shit due my history with rc but I dont know how far that's really gonna get me

[Xtoxm]

Shitfish*

[skitter30]

ya i was thinking that too

[skitter30]

i don't have any particular other leads on prs rn

tris how are you 'reading' rce and/or math rn?

[Xtoxm]

Alright you both like to keep him, and the only person on our teams who read the game does also so let's do it. Full chaos mode. Who to kill instead?

[Xtoxm]

I have a vanilla read on math for reasons I cant articulate and could be completely wrong

[skitter30]

gosh i'm nervous about commiting to this decision :/

i'm thinking it has to be rce or math instead

nobody else is tr enough besides for like, me

and since math wants to lynch rc rce instead

[skitter30]

my gut would nto be surprised if rce is a pr but it's *very* vague and i cannot substantiate it any way and i may be very very very very wrong

[Xtoxm]

I have a vanilla read on math for reasons I cant articulate and could be completely wrong

Actually I can, he has many times spoken of what's he plans to do "tomorrow" or other later days. Dying at night seems to not be in his thoughts, and when I'm a pr it always is.

[Xtoxm]

I could see rce being pr.

Hes one of the people that indicated he would vote rc if tw flips town. But I guess we cant have everything.