Newbie 1976 - Game Over

Datisi · Post Post #875 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:48 am

During the night, I was thinking "mechanically" what I would do in this situation as either scum!Norway or scum!Ph0enix

And I think that this fits neither of the scenarios I had in mind

But not like it matters too much anyway

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #876 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:48 am

In post 873, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 870, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 865, Ph0enix wrote:I'm certain rather than proceed to do a full 180 on a Townie, thank you very much.
Is that the strategy you're going with? You said earlier that you thought my aggressive pushing was my town playstyle, but now that you're cornered you go a full 180 on yourself and claim i'm scummy for it. Lmao.
I'm not bothered by you pushing Naerys, I'm bothered by you townreading Naerys and the following sudden change of heart, going so far as to remove the vote you'd already placed on Map previously in order to vote her.

Shush scum. I'm talking to Datisi.

Datisi · Post Post #877 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:49 am

In post 874, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also if you want a meta clear on me,
i'm usually never this aggressive as scum
. I like to stay in the back and pretend like i'm doing townie things, not blatantly push a lynch on Naerys like i did yesterday.
Or stick my head out by pushing you and Saladman
.

?
Do you think I'll notice a clear meta difference if I compare this game to your scum game Norway? (and please tell me there's something other than Nomination Mafia I can look at)

Ph0enix · Post Post #878 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:51 am

In post 874, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also if you want a meta clear on me, i'm usually never this aggressive as scum. I like to stay in the back and pretend like i'm doing townie things, not blatantly push a lynch on Naerys like i did yesterday. Or stick my head out by pushing you and Saladman.

I'm not that big of a fan of meta reads, I prefer to not look at it thoroughly if I have better evidence available.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #879 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:51 am

Well here's an example of my townplay (Shos and Drew are cult FYI):
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=700

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #880 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:51 am

In post 878, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 874, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also if you want a meta clear on me, i'm usually never this aggressive as scum. I like to stay in the back and pretend like i'm doing townie things, not blatantly push a lynch on Naerys like i did yesterday. Or stick my head out by pushing you and Saladman.
I'm not that big of a fan of meta reads, I prefer to not look at it thoroughly if I have better evidence available.

You're not a fan of it because you're scum and don't want me to look townier than you.

Ph0enix · Post Post #881 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:53 am

In post 880, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 878, Ph0enix wrote:
In post 874, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also if you want a meta clear on me, i'm usually never this aggressive as scum. I like to stay in the back and pretend like i'm doing townie things, not blatantly push a lynch on Naerys like i did yesterday. Or stick my head out by pushing you and Saladman.
I'm not that big of a fan of meta reads, I prefer to not look at it thoroughly if I have better evidence available.
You're not a fan of it because you're scum and don't want me to look townier than you.

Don't you have better arguments as to you being Town and me being scum than some other game you played in?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #882 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:53 am

I suspected Map Wolf early in this game. Look at post 36 and 37.

Datisi · Post Post #883 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:57 am

In post 763, Xtoxm wrote:[4] Map Wolf: Datisi, NorwegianboyEE, Ph0enix, Non Imh (Lynch)

I love this VC

Which asshole was bussing

Datisi · Post Post #884 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:59 am

Norway, mind commenting on 877?

Ph0enix · Post Post #885 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:59 am

In post 882, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I suspected Map Wolf early in this game. Look at post 36 and 37.

Given the fact that Map had only 1 post when you voted him:

1) That's a RVS vote/vote made in order to push Map - no argument as to you being Town
2) It's a legitimate vote based on 1 post

So you're either saying that you voting Map during RVS/pushing him a bit from the start is Town indicative or you're bragging that you voted scum after his first post, even though one cannot make assumptions of alignment based on someone's first post, usually.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #886 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:00 am

In post 885, Ph0enix wrote:So you're either saying that you voting Map during RVS/pushing him a bit from the start is Town indicative or you're bragging that you voted scum after his first post,

I'm bragging. ^^

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #887 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:01 am

In post 877, Datisi wrote:
In post 874, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also if you want a meta clear on me,
i'm usually never this aggressive as scum
. I like to stay in the back and pretend like i'm doing townie things, not blatantly push a lynch on Naerys like i did yesterday.
Or stick my head out by pushing you and Saladman
.
?
Do you think I'll notice a clear meta difference if I compare this game to your scum game Norway? (and please tell me there's something other than Nomination Mafia I can look at)

On this website there is only nomination mafia for my scum!game sadly.

Ph0enix · Post Post #888 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:01 am

In post 886, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 885, Ph0enix wrote:So you're either saying that you voting Map during RVS/pushing him a bit from the start is Town indicative or you're bragging that you voted scum after his first post,
I'm bragging. ^^

You can be sure it sounded like an argument.

Datisi · Post Post #889 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:03 am

Ok, can you expand on how the parts I bolded are different?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #890 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:03 am

I'm actually glad you chose me for the LYLO duel Ph0enix, because i probably wouldn't have caught you out as scum if it was done any other way.

Ph0enix · Post Post #891 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:05 am

In post 890, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I'm actually glad you chose me for the LYLO duel Ph0enix, because i probably wouldn't have caught you out as scum if it was done any other way.

And you do now, because?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #892 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:05 am

In post 889, Datisi wrote:Ok, can you expand on how the parts I bolded are different?

I'm saying that i wouldn't do unnecessarily risky things as scum. Both the bolded parts indicate that my behavior in this game doesn't fit my scum play.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #893 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:06 am

Oh look, Ph0enix has amnesia. He doesn't remember why i know he's scum.

Ph0enix · Post Post #894 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:07 am

In post 893, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Oh look, Ph0enix has amnesia. He doesn't remember why i know he's scum.

Ah yes, I suppose I know what you are referring to. Two can play that game.

Datisi, you are Mason, I am VT, therefore Norway is scum.

Case closed.

Datisi · Post Post #895 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:08 am

Hmm. Question for both of you: if you were scum in this game, who would've you killed last night and what would have been your plan coming into today?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #896 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:11 am

I didn't have a plan coming in today. I thought you were scum Datisi. Obviously Ph0enix has prepped for this, while i'm more of a spontaneous and lazy guy. You decide yourself what's more scummy lol.

Datisi · Post Post #897 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:13 am

It's not a question what's more scummy unfortunately

Ph0enix · Post Post #898 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:13 am

In post 896, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Obviously Ph0enix has prepped for this, while i'm more of a spontaneous and lazy guy.

That doesn't answer the question.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #899 (ISO) » Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:15 am

Think about it, why would scum!me put myself in a situation where i'm put against a town!Ph0enix whom i've townread all game. And the deciding factor is the guy i shit!pushed 2 days ago. That's a really fucking dumb scum strategy lmao. Obviously i'm here because Ph0enix analyzed the situation and thought he would have the best shot at winning the game if he could convince you to vote me here.