Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[NaCl]

Well, I didn't want to do that, but yup. Neighbours with S_S.

[OkaPoka]

eddie - pops (deceased)
titus - hectic
okapoka - unwnd
pine (deceased) - bob
nancy - elsa
amrun - nacl


ddl

[OkaPoka]

okay so who has been buddied in their pt

[Eddie Cane]

@DDL, when you're around, you really not feeling good on SS? I dunno. I know he's good at scum, but I feel really good about him being town, so does Tom, and Ank/Dann did not want to give opinions.

[Eddie Cane]

okay so who has been buddied in their pt

You know, Pops posting in the PT actually felt way better than in thread. I had to sit back and remember that PTs are much,

much

easier for scum to appear townie in.

[OkaPoka]

as a person who has played a few dance games

there is a reason why the people who suicide are almost always t-t pairs

[NaCl]

eddie - pops (deceased)
titus - hectic
okapoka - unwnd
pine (deceased) - bob
nancy - elsa
ddl

amrun - pisskop
NaCl - S_S

Fixed that last bit.

[OkaPoka]

oh im a doofus

[Eddie Cane]

titus - hectic
okapoka - unwnd

pine

- bob
nancy - elsa
amrun - nacl


So, there's 2 scum in these pairings. Unfortunate there's no like Elsa Unwnd hood to nuke.

[OkaPoka]

i fucked up the pairings its

titus - hectic
okapoka - unwnd

pine

- bob
nancy - elsa
amrun - piss
nacl - s_s

[pisskop]

oks, how was your hood?

[pisskop]

dish the pillow talk

[OkaPoka]

krazy said he doesnt believe in neighborhoods and he peaced out

and basically nothing else

i did try getting unwnd to kill me over the night but unwnd said im town and basically thats it

[OkaPoka]

then again the only thing i did in neighborhood with krazy was ego post really

[Eddie Cane]

Elsa and a little NaCl, please amp up that effort. It is hard to townbin you with your amount of content.

Oka, could I get a full reads list from you please?

[OkaPoka]

<okapoka, eddie, ddl>
<nancy, titus>
<unwnd, s_s, amrun, bob >
<piss, nacl>
<elsa, hectic>

something like this rn

[pisskop]

your reads are starting to look better oka

[unwnd]

If anyone has any issues to address to me personally not barring whatever Krazy has done, I am open to them. It feels like I'm being shut out from whatever is going on due to preconceived notions, and frankly it doesn't make me happy. I want to win with town, not be a sacrifical martyr in the sense a majority of you are convinced that I am scum.

[pisskop]

swap tirus and ss around
put piss up with oka
move unwnd down one tier

[unwnd]

I would still like #3026 answered by someone? Anyone? Perhaps

Yeah, I feel the same way. I don't really like the way unwnd was going around on his teammates and lying about it, it seems like a really weird reaction to say they they first refused to give help and then that he didn't really want it. I don't see why he wouldn't just say that from the start.

Also, I feel really ignored about Hectic. To me it really feels like he and Pops have been soft-defending each other for most of the time, not really putting firm stances on each other but acting in ways to quietly defend the other. Does anyone else see this?

I want your read on me from a standpoint of our last game played, out of curiosity.

[unwnd]

i fucked up the pairings its

titus - hectic
okapoka - unwnd

pine

- bob
nancy - elsa
amrun - piss
nacl - s_s

Would like to see everyone's opinion the neighborhoods of those they think is more likely to be town, despite the possibility of both.

Mine looks something like

Titus > Hectic
OkaPoka - Unwnd
Pine > Bob
Nancy > Elsa
Amrun < Piss
NaCL > S_S

[Eddie Cane]

Amrun < Piss

wild

[unwnd]

I dunnok that pairing of NaCL and S_S is a headscratcher for me. I don't like both of them so I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on one, but for my basis of choosing NaCL over S_S despite trying to inquire about why he's being townread is that I feel I can read NaCL and it's possible he doesn't have a dynamic playstyle therefore I could be easily wrong. It's like I said-- His content is servicable but that's all it is. S_S content seems more isolated.

[Amrun]

DDL is the doc! Yes! I already thought he was town, so my personal PoE doesn’t change at all, but I felt like he had mislynch potential.

So here is my actual pisskop read now that I can share it:

When pisskop first entered the game, I was worried he was buddying me because he (in thread) pinged an Elsa post I had already done the same to, without mentioning that I had talked about it first.

However, in the hood, he seemed openly suspicious of me but trying to sort. It wasn’t something that disqualified him from being scum, but it was not buddying.

What makes me think he’s more likely to be town than scum is overnight. I told him I wanted to post something overnight in case I died (which I never ended up doing out of laziness). He volunteered that he thinks Pine might be scum. I reveal that the “something” I wanted to post was actually a Pine case.

Then, Pine was NK.

I have a lot of towncred, in my opinion, that I planned to barter to try and lynch Pine today. I think scum pisskop would have capitalized on that. Skitter agrees with me, though does note that she traditionally is not great at reading pisskop.

[Nancy Drew 39]

originally i was going to go through every detail on why nancy thought elsa was town through pt but thats not allowed

but if I were to do that I'd line up hypothetical pt posts and its content and see if Nancy made posts indicating a certain points of views expressed in the pt. I'd mark down in a spreadsheet if Elsa made posts in the pt that expressed points of views Nancy shared before or after Nancy's public posts.

If after = signs of buddying

If before = signs of being townie

Just a hypothetical for anyone with access to the Nancy - Elsa pt :devilface:

I’ve experienced being buddied by scum in a PT and it definitely didn’t feel like this. She hasn’t trying to influence my reads/votes on anything.

How would you say your reads are effecting her reads. When i was scum in pt i used it to pretend my reads were changing due to my neighbour pushing that he was scum in our pt.

Or is the pt look like neither is trying to or appearing to be influenced by the other

The last, the only thing that could be in any way viewed as influencing, was Elsa taking a hard line on not outing the hoods and once I actually understood the setup, I 100% agreed with it.