Newbie 1976 - Game Over

[Ph0enix]

Just look at Jackson's ISO and decide for yourself how bad his slot was until Ph0enix did some damage control.

Oh so now you're playing that card? Now that none of the other stuff worked.

Misrep^

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Do you think your other arguments were valid or what?

Yes? What arguments are not valid?

Are we really having that discussion?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't trust anything you say, so most of the time i ignore your reasoning for denouncing my arguments.
I only care about convincing Datisi.

[Datisi]

no worries friends i am still here and reading

[NorwegianboyEE]

Anyway i'm done with this session. Probably won't be back to this thread until i've slept tonight.

[Ph0enix]

I don't trust anything you say, so most of the time i ignore your reasoning for denouncing my arguments.
I only care about convincing Datisi.

Congratulations, you answered your own question.

Have to go now. @Datisi: If you want to hammer me, at least let me get back and then do it. If you want to hammer Norway, though, feel free to do so without me, I don't mind.

[Datisi]

i figured you wouldn't mind that

I'm off to sleep soon too. Are we al Europe-based?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I hate LYLO

[Ph0enix]

Because i READ Datisi's behaviour and it seemed genuine, that's why i switched gears to Map Wolf who was, as i quote:

I keep thinking back on Map Wolf. No attempt at solving, just sheeping reads lists and opinions. I think Map Wolf could be a good alternative here.

If we go purely by activity as a scumtell then Map Wolf is the scummiest by far. I could see scum!him looking at the gamestate and deciding to hide in the shadows by saying absolutely nothing of value, hoping town will forget about him.

Yeah, that was after you gave up on pushing Datisi. When did you read his behavior as genuine, exactly? Cause it seems like it's you pushing him and questioning Salad, and then suddenly "I keep thinking back on Map Wolf".

[Ph0enix]

Ignoring the last vote, you've been coasting the entire game and held few original opinions of your own. And you've never risked your neck. That is the play of someone that wants to go by unseen, not solve the game.

You didn't have a problem with that until today, why bring it up now, suddenly?

[Ph0enix]

There's something wrong in the village
In the village, oh

Can you hammer already, what's the point in me arguing all day with scum!Phoenix. I already know he's going to misrepresent, nitpick or deny every point i have against him.

If I have something about your points that I don't agree with, of course I'm going to say something, what?

So scum!you would genuinely give up if i had a super strong argument? Or would you fight it.

I fight arguments which don't make sense. I don't make up stuff in order to fight legit arguments. Jackson's ISO, for example, I can't excuse.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because i READ Datisi's behaviour and it seemed genuine, that's why i switched gears to Map Wolf who was, as i quote:

I keep thinking back on Map Wolf. No attempt at solving, just sheeping reads lists and opinions. I think Map Wolf could be a good alternative here.

If we go purely by activity as a scumtell then Map Wolf is the scummiest by far. I could see scum!him looking at the gamestate and deciding to hide in the shadows by saying absolutely nothing of value, hoping town will forget about him.

Yeah, that was after you gave up on pushing Datisi. When did you read his behavior as genuine, exactly? Cause it seems like it's you pushing him and questioning Salad, and then suddenly "I keep thinking back on Map Wolf".

Yeah, that's exactly what i did. But there's nothing scummy about it in my case. I often tend to change my reads ingame rather violently. If you want examples of me performing that behaviour as town i've got thousands.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ignoring the last vote, you've been coasting the entire game and held few original opinions of your own. And you've never risked your neck. That is the play of someone that wants to go by unseen, not solve the game.

You didn't have a problem with that until today, why bring it up now, suddenly?

Because you went completely fell under my radar. How hard is it to understand that i went from "do not suspect Ph0enix" to: "excplicitly aware that Ph0enix is scum" and therefore analyzing your ISO much more deeply?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ph0enix, can i call you razor from now on? Because you are one sharp scum player. Mad respect.

[Ph0enix]

Ph0enix, can i call you razor from now on? Because you are one sharp scum player. Mad respect.

Razor lmao. It has a nice ring to it, I must say.

[Ph0enix]

Ignoring the last vote, you've been coasting the entire game and held few original opinions of your own. And you've never risked your neck. That is the play of someone that wants to go by unseen, not solve the game.

You didn't have a problem with that until today, why bring it up now, suddenly?

Because you went completely fell under my radar. How hard is it to understand that i went from "do not suspect Ph0enix" to: "excplicitly aware that Ph0enix is scum" and therefore analyzing your ISO much more deeply?

My point is that it sounds like "Before I didn't have a problem with your votes, but now that I think about it, I do."

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because your play this game could easily be a playstyle related thing so i didn't mind it initially, i will admit though. I haven't looked at your one town game on-site yet. But i'm going to right now to see if i can find any differentiation.

[Datisi]

I hate LYLO

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say that one difference i immediately recognize from Razor's towngame in Newbie 1973, his posts are much more natural. Asking questions, keeping with the flow of the game. While in this game (prior to the LYLO duel with me), Razor has sounded much more robotic, reads lists with freaking flashy colours, lots of quotes referring to posts with numbers. Basically, he is

trying very hard to

appear

as town.

His opening posts are good examples of this behaviour, wall of text-y, colours, quotes with line tag, crafted meticulously.
Examples: post 331, 334, 686.
This post is another egregious piece of fluff that i honestly don't see the point of making, look at that amount of text for an statement that could essentially be condensed down into one shorter sentence. -> 504

[NorwegianboyEE]

Long story short, Razor is trying very hard to appear as town. But his actions don't really make him so, excluding his bussing of Map Wolf.

[Ph0enix]

I will say that one difference i While in this game (prior to the LYLO duel with me), Razor has sounded much more robotic, reads lists with freaking flashy colours, lots of quotes referring to posts with numbers. Basically, he is

trying very hard to

appear

as town.

His opening posts are good examples of this behaviour, wall of text-y, colours, quotes with line tag, crafted meticulously.

I have made reads lists with flashy colours and lots of quotes referring to posts with numbers in the last game, as well.

[Ph0enix]

Side question: If I'm scum, why bring you to LyLo instead of killing you N1, given the fact that if we look only at D1, pretty much everyone had agreed that you are Town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

There is a difference in tone here, you were less aggressive than you were in newbie 1973.

[Ph0enix]

This post is another egregious piece of fluff that i honestly don't see the point of making, look at that amount of text for an statement that could essentially be condensed down into one shorter sentence. -> 504

I wanted it to be clear what our possible scenarios are in order to better assess the situation and to make the point clear that whether the Mason should claim or not is not that obvious.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Side question: If I'm scum, why bring you to LyLo instead of killing you N1, given the fact that if we look only at D1, pretty much everyone had agreed that you are Town?

Probably because of PR hunting, or they thought i would look scummy enough when GBJ was mislynched. And these latest days scum obviously has been hunting for the conf!town.
Scum hunts PR -> Kanna mason dies.
Non Imh claims 2nd mason -> he dies.
Players suspect Salad is 2nd mason -> he dies.

[Datisi]

Haha yeah scum couldn't kill me lol