White Flag - TM2020

[gobbledygook]

What part do you want me to explain more specifically

[KittyMo]

What part do you want me to explain more specifically

I guess the "weird" part, why is it weird, how did it develop your thoughts on her slot?

I'm really concerned about assuming we must have solved this day one and just going with a consensus lynch. It feels like there's no resistance whatsoever to my scumreads and that doesn't make me feel that confident in the lynches. Maybe we're just doing that well since it's team mafia, but I'm not convinced that everything is as easy as it looks here.

Hop 'hopalop' hop

I mean I'm definitely not going at this with the approach that "we've solved this," I'm just trying to do my best to holistically weigh who has behaved in ways that are easiest to fake. And it's hard because there's so much WIFOM from the setup about whether someone being lynchable is a towntell in and of itself. I feel like that's constantly gnawing at me but that I don't know how to use that information. I can hope that later in the game there's more information to make it...less WIFOM and more events based takes on that. Rather than just something that makes me feel nihilistic and stressed.

[Auro]

My partners have been pretty mum about my game because I’ve been absent from it for a large portion of it.

Wait what? So they'd read the game only if you're present?

[BBmolla]

Can we talk about the fucking absurdity that NSGs reads are supposedly more useful somewhere else rather than a setup with no PRs and a 70% scum win rate

[Donempire]

I realize my activity has been shit this game, and i believe thats because i valued the quality of my posts. If you dont mind wading through the shit, this'll be much easier for me.

Over the last couple of pages my reads havent fully changed except kitty is now a confident tr as far as i see it - i havent been able to catch her in a contradiction or a hidden agenda yet.

I'll be focusing on some of formers posts.

[Donempire]

Yeah formers scum.

I have never believed his posts were anything outstanding, but thats not the smoking gun for me. The last 3 posts he made seem like its coming from frustrated scum that got caught due to luck, and his desperation to switch to a NSG wagon shows that also.

[Donempire]

Gobble wagon seems rushed. I think people caved in too early to formers offensive.

I especially didnt like that nsg was MIA and yet former still said she was making it a 1v1, shes not even here

I will also say that i dont like how cheeky attacked dunn out of thin air - it seems like it was meant as a way to lull the nonattentive to thinking dunn was doing something malicious against her when he wasnt. As far as i see its not like she scumreads him either so wtf?

[Dannflor]

@NSG, if you're around, Ank specifically wants to know your read on Gobble and why please

[Dannflor]

The last 3 posts he made seem like its coming from frustrated scum that got caught due to luck

, and his desperation to switch to a NSG wagon shows that also.

actually this ^^^

If people don't want to lynch FF due to other reasons that's fine and I'd ask for elaboration on that

but the AtE from him two pages ago is nothing towny

[KittyMo]

Hey molla, would you care to sell me on why your wagon is the way to go?

[BBmolla]

I still think FF is a good lynch, the AtE didn’t have the apparent affect on me it did on you all

I’m fine with a NSG lynch but I don’t think she’s scummier than FF, I just think her fucking logic sucks

[BBmolla]

Don’t like Gobble wagon.

[KittyMo]

@Gobble

where are you at with Ceph? I feel like that's the main progression from you I don't understand and that the window for asking about hasn't sorta passed on

[CheekyTeeky]

AtE is like my kryptonite. I can't deal.

What's the VC on him?

[Dannflor]

it’s mine too cheeky

But this is really not towny ate

Out of the wagons I feel like only nsg, ff, and gobble are likely to go through at this point

Gobble feels like the ultimate compromise lynch and I’d rather have FF over nsg both for scum equity and potential information

[Dannflor]

He’s L-2 I believe

[Dannflor]

Oh shit I thought the deadline was in 6 hours, not a day and 6 hours

I guess a CFD is still possible but I’d really only be happy with Espe outside of the current wagons

[CheekyTeeky]

Alright I'm fine with an FF lynch I'll be here until deadline.

[CheekyTeeky]

UNVOTE:

[Dannflor]

Duck thinks that generally FF has been a lot more defensive this game than his usual self, which would make sense if he was playing with more of an inward focus due to fear of mislynch risk. However, I don’t think he was seriously wagoned until very recently? So I’m not sure that explanation holds any merit.

He’s doing some more reading before I get a final opinion

[Dannflor]

ok

Officially my whole team is on board killing FF

[Espeonage]

Vote: FF

[CheekyTeeky]

Intent to hammer by deadline or if everyone has said what they want to say.

[Dunnstral]

This is a mistake - NSG is scumclaiming right now

[CheekyTeeky]

This is a mistake - NSG is scumclaiming right now

I thought you wanted gobbles?