Newbie 1976 - Game Over

[Naerys]

Oh well, can dead share their thoughts too?
Very good play for Phoenix, respect to you, mighty scum!
I am not surprised Datisi picked Norway. Norway looked way scummier through whole game.
Thank you for such wonderful game.

[Menalque]

Very well played, phoenix

[Menalque]

I think D3 was probably what ultimately lost this for town

[Menalque]

P.s. shout out to kanna for her excellent lylo reads

[NorwegianboyEE]

Razor is scum MVP

[Naerys]

I think D3 was probably what ultimately lost this for town

I should have tried harder to persuade
But i doubt it would work.

[Menalque]

No, again, this was much more on town for defaulting you into the likely scum partner when you were fairly clearly town — but more than that, it was doing that openly in a way that allowed scum!phoenix to hammer you without having to do anything to get that extra mislynch, therefore essentially losing town a day phase worth of content that may have been critical to figuring things out in lylo

[Ph0enix]

I think D3 was probably what ultimately lost this for town

I should have tried harder to persuade
But i doubt it would work.

I mean, worst case scenario - you still get lynched. Otherwise, you succeed in convincing someone you're Town, so I don't know why you gave up so easily.

[Menalque]

@dats, well played and bad luck in lylo

Fwiw you’ll see in dead thread that I was totally sold on scum!norway and was yelling at you to hammer him from day start

[NorwegianboyEE]

You scumreading me when i'm town is nothing new for me.

[Datisi]

The way your reads were switching from TRing Naerys at the time it didn't make sense to pushing her out of the blue shortly after you voted Map. You also looked at 1973 Day 1 and said his play seemed similar only to today say it didn't. Also I'll c/p the reaction bullshit

Spoiler:

Okay, I reread the Day 1, I think I'll take a break to type up what the "reaction test" was for posterity's sake.

So, after Map got lynched, I went through their play and found that they were voting Naerys for a good part of Day 1. Nothing wrong with some distancing. But I thought that if that distancing was planned, that Naerys would bring it up during the next day as part of her defense, i.e. "Map was voting me here, so we're not partners!".

When she

didn't

bring that up, I started worrying, but since nobody else made sense to me (believed in the Salad TR, and didn't think Map got bussed), I decided to ignore the test altogether. Then Naerys flipped Green.

Map wolf voted both Norway and Jackson during Day 1. So I figured let's try again. I asked them both "short reason why I should vote the other person." Because since both partners were bussers, you'd think scum would try to use that to their advantage?

I very much don't like his constant vote switching (especially referring to D2).

He accuses me of voting Map Wolf late even though he himself wasn't sure about Map for the most of D2 as he was busy suspecting you, Salad and also Naerys. How he suddenly stopped pushing you and started trying elsewhere I still don't get, either.

The 180 flip on Naerys makes no sense whatsoever. Either his accusation doesn't make sense, or his townread in the first place.

Phoenix's reply tries to tell me why Norway's behaviour is off.

Well, this post is something worth looking at:

VOTE: Norwegian
Don't really like 67 and 75. I don't see how GBJ finding you suspicious makes him scum.

Sure he unvoted immediately, but that's definitely not something a scum partner would do.

Literally the first thing Norway mentiones is "Map voted me ergo we're not partners".

pedit: oh hey Mena is here what a surprise
yeah Day 3 was very fucking dumb of me, as described up here
not like my method ended up helping me but fuck that's what happens when datisi is conftown in lylo

ppedit: okay cool at least i wasn't alone :')

[Naerys]

from their point of view i could have been newb!scum that got nervous from losing partner i guess

[Menalque]

Can i be salty that you voted wrong?

No

[Datisi]

Why were you in the dead thread anyway?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mena likes to see me suffer.

[Datisi]

I think D3 was probably what ultimately lost this for town

I should have tried harder to persuade
But i doubt it would work.

Maybe it would've
I was very dumb for trying to rush that lynch but I was genuinely second guessing myself
it's just that nobody else made sense as the partner

[Menalque]

Why were you in the dead thread anyway?

U know

Stalkin’

[Datisi]

*sigh*

[Menalque]

Mena likes to see me suffer.

Not that so much as everyone in dead thread bar kanna was hard scumreading you and even kanna was talking about how she felt unsure

So being salty that dats felt the same esp when she was still in the game which makes things about 1000x harder is unfair

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you scumread me i'm town, if you townread me i'm scum.

[Menalque]

If you scumread me i'm town, if you townread me i'm scum.

I actually did townread you initially this game, so we’re gonna have to throw that theory out of the window

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's because i wanted to play more calmly and refrained, but then i got bored and went back to my usual antics.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's because i wanted to play more calmly and refrained, but then i got bored and went back to my usual antics.

[Kanna]

ahhh GG

[Menalque]

Very well played, phoenix

Your tone was also excellent, btw