Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Nancy Drew 39]

what is woat btw

worst of all time but I am legit pissed at Titus for completely ignoring D1. It’s so so fucking insulting.

<<--- I hate D1. You know this? Like I don't even read on subbing in.

Also, how am I ignoring D1 when it's the only thing I can base my VCA on?

Girls... ladies... guys... all sound awkward help

Can

ya'll

please not? You are both just town. This is not helpful. Please focus elsewhere until I'm not in the game.

That's not what the votes tell me. Instead of explaining, Nancy threatened our friendship. There may be an explanation but I need it.

I’m not avoiding explaining anything. What do you think I haven’t explained? And please only ask me specific questions because I’m dizzy and having a lot of trouble staying focused on the page.

[Hectic]

@Piss and @ anybody else who has unwnd as townish

Can you please explain why?

Mostly because of Krazy honestly. I'll put some time aside to reread and ISO that slot tomorrow.

[Titus]

@Nancy why do you seem to be on almost every D1 wagon but for NaCl and Pops (excluding very late D1)?

[OkaPoka]

Titus why aren't you asking me these type of questions

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy why do you seem to be on almost every D1 wagon but for NaCl and Pops (excluding very late D1)?

I was tr both of them att, I’m still tr NaCl. Why are you sr her anyway?

[Amrun]

Anyways,

UNVOTE:

I don't know exactly who I want to kill today yet. If DDL has a strong opinion I'll sheep him. Still mulling.

DDL wants to kill S S. Please dont

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Piss and @ anybody else who has unwnd as townish

Can you please explain why?

Mostly because of Krazy honestly. I'll put some time aside to reread and ISO that slot tomorrow.

He said Eddie scumclaimed by saying he wouldn’t lie to his team about his role pm, iirc?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Anyways,

UNVOTE:

I don't know exactly who I want to kill today yet. If DDL has a strong opinion I'll sheep him. Still mulling.

DDL wants to kill S S. Please dont

I’m liking his current reads so, I think that’s probably a mistake.

[Amrun]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

[Eddie Cane]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

Anyways,

UNVOTE:

I don't know exactly who I want to kill today yet. If DDL has a strong opinion I'll sheep him. Still mulling.

DDL wants to kill S S. Please dont

It's a conditional sheep. Lol.

You are going to have to sell me on Bob.

It isn't just Dann's reads. Tom and myself agree. Ank I think did as well. But, I'm (probably) dying before you since I'm confirmed town, so it'll be your call too.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

Why? I really don’t understand this at all. People really need to metacheck me more.

[DrDolittle]

I want to make a pisskop scum case. It'll stem from why pops' read on the slot doesn't make any sense.

A little late for what feels like an RVS vote? Maybe this was an attempt to progress the game?

In realtime I realposted 40 minutes later, but it was an entire page later because of hyperposting and team mafia hype and etc

I see no harm in making my tardy RVS vote during my catchup. Regardless of how much Pine wants to be a tightwad mafia should be fun

This seems super-alignment neutral pisskop post, but pops felt obliged to respond to it. When at that time, there's way more interesting stuff going on, eg. titus and strats. This feels more like theatre wink wink nudge nudge play than a genuine response.

yet, the next time PK was mentioned,

pisskop seems really earnest in his approach to the game this game, I really think he's town. I'm not sure how to explain it, it's kind of a tone thing? I don't think he's fully explained his Hectic read but that's not incongruous with town!pisskop. But then both Amrun's and Nancy's involvement in the wagon have involved explanations that feel worse to me than no explanation at all

I don't know Pisskop's role, but this read is fabricated. I know people have criticised me for using 'overly broad terms', but earnest is exact so. One can say pops is trying to pocket, but pocketing pisskop has no real value at that time. I feel like this is more pops covering for scum partner.

300 posts later, no mentions other than

To be clear it is - I have a generic townread on pisskop this game + - looking back at my record I'm like 3/4 reading pisskop well or something like that (never as scum to be fair)

not -I am this pisskop metareader and this is pisskop townmeta

again a read that makes little sense. 3/4 reads on town is net null. Pops as town is smart enough to know this.

I said he would endgame me, and he quoted me saying he would endgame me and said "get fucked kid"

that is bragging about endgaming me

But i mean, saying that to a not dead player is tantamount to suicide?

Is it? He did it. He's not dying. I think we have proof it is not suicide, for him? Similar to how "what if I lied about being drunk?" is not suicide, for him?
This is something in the game thread not something I'm alleging is in the hood.

Actually my favorite thing in the thread right now is pisskop and his adorable lion avi

I want to hug it.
If he votes unwnd I will join in.
His discomfort with my love just makes it all better.
(And he's still town)

Two more posts, that accentuate how the reads don't really match with the alleged reason.

I guess the key message I'm advancing through these posts is that pops read on pisskop town makes no sense (I haven't dug into amrun's reasoning so I don't know). But, there is no inherent value of correctly reading pisskop as he was more of a major player. I think this is scum-scum interaction.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

Anyways,

UNVOTE:

I don't know exactly who I want to kill today yet. If DDL has a strong opinion I'll sheep him. Still mulling.

DDL wants to kill S S. Please dont

It's a conditional sheep. Lol.

You are going to have to sell me on Bob.

It isn't just Dann's reads. Tom and myself agree. Ank I think did as well. But, I'm (probably) dying before you since I'm confirmed town, so it'll be your call too.

And unlike Amrun, all three has played with me as both alignments and I must be pretty freaking obvtown for them to be this certain on me because they would all be still paranoing on me otherwise.

[Amrun]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

Why? I really don’t understand this at all. People really need to metacheck me more.

Secondhand meta is garbage. I’m not interested in lynching right now, so let it go at that.


@Eddie: Eh, I’ve cooled off on bob. He’s in my PoE but I’m feeling less excited about it. I’m voting unwnd right now. NaCl just as good.

[pisskop]

DDls case on me is about what pops said about me?

Solid

[DrDolittle]

Now let's study Pisskop-pops interaction. Starting with,

pisskop responding "fair" to pops, and then this post:

I think, Titus, Krazy, Elsa, Oka, Pops and SS are town.

Willing to tentatively buy this list.

and just never talking again... until 1000 posts later, during which he was active during the game.

feel like every other game could flip scum without me feeling like the tables and chairs are on the ceiling

im not usually a locktown read

VOTE: pops

locks in on pops for scum-reading.

my solve is heckboy/popsof-inscum/pairbondedpoisons with an outside flex of okapolka

And look closely - that he thinks pops is top 3 scum candidate.

I said he would endgame me, and he quoted me saying he would endgame me and said "get fucked kid"

that is bragging about endgaming me

But i mean, saying that to a not dead player is tantamount to suicide?

I don't get this post, but I guess I'll just put it here.

while im not sold on pops being scum, I think there's merit in it.
while im not sure about eddie either, Ive progressed in reads from 'oh so eddie is a middling poster, maybe town' to 'oh, this guy talks like he has some skelebones in his closet.'

But when the wagon is building (but not large) pisskop gets nervous, seeks outside dodging.

VOTE: eddie

ill revote to flip pops, but I think this is the new flavor of the week.

HE GOES TO EDDIE. HE'S SELF CONCIOUS ABOUT IT TOO

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Sets up the fence-sitting.

Krazy Pops has a nice ring to it tho!

VOTE: salt

Really sets up fence-sitting and starts moving to NaCl?!

I think pops might be town tbh. Theyre reads are consistent.

I dont recall pops' scumgame. Anyone have an insight?

AND HERE IT IS. THIS FLOP, FROM POPS IS TOP 3 SCUM READ TO TOWN MAKES ZERO SENSE. THIS IS SETTING UP FOR EDDIE LYNCH IN THE CASE WHERE THE WAGON GOES LARGE

VOTE: pops

baby

But alas, babylon has fallen. To look good for Titus's famous VCA, pisskop makes an attempt on the yeet wagon.

[DrDolittle]

DDls case on me is about what pops said about me?

Solid

justed finished part II looking for an editor

[Nancy Drew 39]

Pisskop, why is a compromise wagon bad?

If there’s anyone’s read on Nancy I think is BoPable, it’s Dannflor, IMO. For now I’m choosing to trust it but Nancy is in my PoE as explained prior.

Why? I really don’t understand this at all. People really need to metacheck me more.

Secondhand meta is garbage. I’m not interested in lynching right now, so let it go at that.


@Eddie: Eh, I’ve cooled off on bob. He’s in my PoE but I’m feeling less excited about it. I’m voting unwnd right now. NaCl just as good.

No, it’s totally fucking not and - no offense, I swear I’m not intending to be either demeaning or insulting with this - but any good player will tell you otherwise. You’re wrong, meta absolutely has it’s place, it may not be everything but to claim it’s “garbage” is just dead fucking wrong and you will lose a lot of your future games if you don’t disabuse yourself of this extremely incorrect opinion.

[pisskop]

justed finished part II looking for an editor

so when i flip green do you promise to just treestump and let the real mafia players who didnt skip out play?

[Eddie Cane]

So I'll put it this way

my top 2 kills, right now, are Piss and Unwnd

I find it bizzarre both openly have such awful associations, :shrug:

@Amrun, then sell me on NaCl lol I don't think he's scummy either though this is kinda similar to that game I linked he's with pops in

[DrDolittle]

Votecount 1.33

popsofctown (8) -

Something_Smart, bob3141, Eddie Cane, Titus, pisskop, Amrun, Elsa Jay, Nancy Drew 39

NaCl (2) -

Pine, popsofctown

unwnd (1) -

DrDolittle

Pine (1) -

Hectic

Not Voting (3) -

NaCl, unwnd, OkaPoka

With 15 players alive it takes 8 votes to lynch.

A lynch has been achieved.

Given this final wagon. If there is scum on pops, its 70 percent pisskop, 20 percent elsa jay/SS, and 10 percent anyone else.

[DrDolittle]

justed finished part II looking for an editor

so when i flip green do you promise to just treestump and let the real mafia players who didnt skip out play?

im just trying my bestest

[pisskop]

bestest

cant stay mad at you.

is the new doodles movie any good? i heard the original character was a short plump man with nerd googles.

[DrDolittle]

i have not gotten a chance to watch it, but i like the version where the protagonist is a tall funny lankey black man

[DrDolittle]

also, I personally think Xtoxm is one the strongest players on site, and with Pine's flip, matching up with him gives me a bit more of solace with the read.