Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[DrDolittle]

i have to say i'm pretty nervous about elsa-scum, and I agree with Oka that her response was over the top

I also feel reasonably good about chicken-town, I think.

[DrDolittle]

DDL wants to kill S S. Please dont

amrun whats your numbers on smarty-pants town right now

[Nancy Drew 39]

also, I personally think Xtoxm is one the strongest players on site, and with Pine's flip, matching up with him gives me a bit more of solace with the read.

Xtoxm is particularly against lynching Hectic, thinks he’s a mislynch. He’s Townreading Amrun, S_S, Hectic, Pops, and “probably” Nancy.

Okay, so 4 out of 5, ain’t bad right?

[pisskop]

Essentially his case amounts to a meta kop's-not-playing-his-Towngame argument.

Its a meta arguement

which had already been brought up. by me.

[DrDolittle]

also, I personally think Xtoxm is one the strongest players on site, and with Pine's flip, matching up with him gives me a bit more of solace with the read.

Xtoxm is particularly against lynching Hectic, thinks he’s a mislynch. He’s Townreading Amrun, S_S, Hectic, Pops, and “probably” Nancy.

Okay, so 4 out of 5, ain’t bad right?

[pisskop]

Im playing this game in a much more deliberate fashion than i usually do. that doesnt make me scum, it makes me aware of how crummy i usually am with my posting.

[DrDolittle]

i could be just wrong with you and if so i am sorry

[Micc]

Votecount 2.07

Elsa Jay (4) -

unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka, pisskop

pisskop (3) -

DrDolittle, Nancy Drew 39, bob3141

Hectic (1) -

NaCl

unwnd (1) -

Amrun

NaCl (1) -

Titus

Not Voting (3) -

Something_Smart, Elsa Jay, Eddie Cane

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).

[pisskop]

k.

Im not interested in letting you rope me.

[DrDolittle]

pisskop whats ur read on amrun again?

[pisskop]

townread

[pisskop]

she got super worked up in the hood cuz I said 80% sure and not higher

[DrDolittle]

stop working amrun up she's having a lot of stress lately

[pisskop]

Think of how lonely she'll be if you violently crush the throat of her hoodmate

[Eddie Cane]

that's a good point

[DrDolittle]

Okay, so pops vs Eddie, I don't think outing the neighborhood makes Eddie scum. Like, I get that Eddie can do it if he's careless scum but pops' argument doesn't make sense since he can also do it if he's annoyed town and I don't see why pops is reading into it in that way. It feels forced.
I initially liked pops for her earlier play because it didn't feel like it was scum-her and I think I actually know how she is as scum, unlike most people here. But the vote on Eddie feels like a reach.

this is town enough that I have no interest in voting nacl today

[Nancy Drew 39]

Okay, so pops vs Eddie, I don't think outing the neighborhood makes Eddie scum. Like, I get that Eddie can do it if he's careless scum but pops' argument doesn't make sense since he can also do it if he's annoyed town and I don't see why pops is reading into it in that way. It feels forced.
I initially liked pops for her earlier play because it didn't feel like it was scum-her and I think I actually know how she is as scum, unlike most people here. But the vote on Eddie feels like a reach.

this is town enough that I have no interest in voting nacl today

I looked back on Bob, I feel better about him being town.

The reason for that is it I thought Pine was a really likely lynch for today, it seemed like plenty of people were suspecting him. So in that case, why would a scumteam with Bob go kill him instead?
1. They think Bob would be lynched and they're trying to kill Pine beforehand to not create an IC.
2. They think Pine was the Phone Operator and wanted to kill him for that reason.

A scumteam with Bob would know that Pine wasn't the doc and couldn't target him for that reason.
I don't think reason 1 is really plausible. Most people were townreading Bob and scumreading Pine and I didn't see a situation where that would turn around and result in a Bob lynch beforehand, at least on this day.
Reason 2 is possible but I don't see any evidence that would point to that. I think it's far more likely with what S_S said, they were trying to kill the doc or they were misinterpreting his towniness. Which points away from Bob.

Also, Oka is town now.

@Amrun
Yeah, I just find it unlikely and it's not as plausible of an explanation.
I meant to say that on the whole it points away from Bob.

Mafia also has a Rolecop, so I think a team with Bob on it would be better off checking Pine than killing him except if they believed in situation 1 as well.

@Nancy
I think that's more likely. It's still possible he was after them like what Amrun said or that they were scared of his team. But I think it generally points away from Bob-scum.

I honestly don’t understand the sr on this slot.

[DrDolittle]

did phone operator claim/should phone operator claim for IC status right now?

[Nancy Drew 39]

did phone operator claim/should phone operator claim for IC status right now?

+1

Yes good idea. Me, I’m just vt.

[pisskop]

did phone operator claim/should phone operator claim for IC status right now?

Im kind of meh on it.

I think that unless they are SRed heavily, its better to hold onto the trump. CC any fakeclaims and lynch them, but otherwise why?

Also, does the scum PT count?

[DrDolittle]

i would encourage people not to out vt-status and let PO have the agency on deciding how to operate their role though

[DrDolittle]

CC any fakeclaims and lynch them, but otherwise why?

my thought is scum is not gonna fake claim PO, and all the hoods are outted.

the only reason i can think of PO not outting is that they can bait scum to push them... but that's soooo weak.

[pisskop]

Will the real named townie please stand up?

[Nancy Drew 39]

did phone operator claim/should phone operator claim for IC status right now?

Im kind of meh on it.

I think that unless they are SRed heavily, its better to hold onto the trump. CC any fakeclaims and lynch them, but otherwise why?

Also, does the scum PT count?

Do you seriously think scum is going to NK PO over doc and IC? With the doc already outed, we need as many clears as possible.

With the hoods already outed, PO is useless anyhow.

[Nancy Drew 39]

i would encourage people not to out vt-status and let PO have the agency on deciding how to operate their role though

Sorry.