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Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:05 pm

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Has what I've been saying made any sense? I know my skills aren't really up to snuff so it's helpful to know where I'm going wrong.
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Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:08 pm

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I'm not reading for sense, I'm reading for alignment, and I do think you're more likely to be town than I thought you were before this engagement, which tbh raises ugly questions.
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Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:16 pm

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Plum/Tris/Teacher?
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Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:18 pm

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In post 3452, RadiantCowbells wrote:Plum/Tris/Teacher?
Why Tris but not Ari?
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Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:19 pm

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Mostly because as an individual I don't scumread Ari despite how bad the associatives look? Idk.
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Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:24 pm

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I have the creeping feeling that this game will stay confusing longer than it initially seemed it would. And on that note, I'm gonna hit the hay.
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Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:24 pm

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In post 3454, RadiantCowbells wrote:Mostly because as an individual I don't scumread Ari despite how bad the associatives look? Idk.
Why not?

I will answer your question later late day at work.

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Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 114, teacher wrote:Yea. I have thought son the other things, but want to reread that on a desktop as I get more familiar with Tris and Plum whom I don’t really k ow. So that was the squirrel that ran cross my mind as an interesting pop in and disappear but.
In post 3398, teacher wrote:I’m really liking the discussion, especially of the slots we need more content from: tris, plum, Ari (posts =! Content)

This is your reminder that nobody has mentioned xtomx since start of D2.

@skit - what’s your take on me?

@Ico - you quoted ari on me, but not Bella or my reactions. Thoughts on that?
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Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:31 pm

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In post 2931, teacher wrote:I agree on Ico blade RCE and skit. I don’t see what you’re seeing w Bella but others do so I’m willing to give that time. I think Ari has a ton of RC associatives you are weirdly discounting in that read. I’d love for you to split the hairs in the plum/tris//flopz pool because I think there’s one scum there but don’t have hairs to split myself.
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Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:36 pm

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I feel like if Plum is scum she did a fantastic job of talking to me in a way that made me not want to lynch her.
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Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:39 pm

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Sorry I'm spamming again, I'll stop unless anyone addresses me directly.
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Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:01 pm

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In post 3457, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 114, teacher wrote:Yea. I have thought son the other things, but want to reread that on a desktop as I get more familiar with Tris and Plum whom I don’t really k ow. So that was the squirrel that ran cross my mind as an interesting pop in and disappear but.
In post 3398, teacher wrote:I’m really liking the discussion, especially of the slots we need more content from: tris, plum, Ari (posts =! Content)

This is your reminder that nobody has mentioned xtomx since start of D2.

@skit - what’s your take on me?

@Ico - you quoted ari on me, but not Bella or my reactions. Thoughts on that?
Of 4 mentions of Tris in Teacher's iSO, 3 are accompanied by Plum. I'm not exactly sure what that means but it probably means something.
It means that I think they are both relatively bland slots who have tried to avoid attention and haven’t really differentiated themselves to me. Other people keep making distinctions. I don’t. I’d happily pressure or lynch either.
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Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:03 pm

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In post 3258, teacher wrote:I’m fine with an ari/RC alternative. My plan for the day was to push plum to get more investment then try to wheel it back onto one of them anyways.

I don’t like the shade from Ari. I thought my eod was pretty obviously town, or as much so as I get. Duck, blade and RC - heck even Bella - seemed to agree. So aris opening posting with that and lack of depth continued the inadequacy I felt there yesterday, even if at times it felt like it was going to be too easy to lynch.
Just going to point this out in response to that, aka you were pretty clear that you wanted ari/RC lynches today.
I mean I think that it's actually pretty forgivable because I think a lot of us have lumped Tris/Plum together at different points in time you're just... a little more extreme on that.
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Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:09 pm

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RC let me ask you a question

Assume Ari is town, wouldn’t scum be lining up to watch me fail and give you leverage as to how “bad” I am?
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Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:12 pm

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This question depends on Plum's alignment.
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Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:15 pm

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How so?
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Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:19 pm

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I think that if Plum is town and Aristophanes is also town, they would much rather discredit me and embolden you than flip Ari.
I think that if Plum is scum and Aristophanes is town, they would absolutely prefer to lynch Aristophanes and they would see discrediting you as a negative rather than a positive.
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Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:36 pm

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In post 3466, RadiantCowbells wrote:I think that if Plum is town and Aristophanes is also town, they would much rather discredit me and embolden you than flip Ari.
I think that if Plum is scum and Aristophanes is town, they would absolutely prefer to lynch Aristophanes and they would see discrediting you as a negative rather than a positive.
Hypothetically if you were reasonably confident I was shot at last night, how does that change things?
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Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:34 pm

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In post 3411, MathBlade wrote:Just one question Ari

Spicy or bland?

Yes you get no context suck it up.
Ooooo!

I mean, spicy, but the flavourful kind where you enjoy the elements of the spice! None of this Frank's red hot bs!
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Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:57 pm

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In post 3468, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3411, MathBlade wrote:Just one question Ari

Spicy or bland?

Yes you get no context suck it up.
Ooooo!

I mean, spicy, but the flavourful kind where you enjoy the elements of the spice! None of this Frank's red hot bs!
Do you have anything to add so far to this day?
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Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:13 pm

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Again, I think it's most likely regardless of whether Ari is scum or not that you were shot because scum counted on Skitter powerlynching me and thought that you would be an obstacle to getting me lynched.

I'm still like fine with Ari dying at some point just that if he dies now I think that town loses because I'll die the next day and town is in lylo with very little to go on.
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Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:15 pm

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Also I think there's basically a 0% chance of an Ari scumteam that doesn't include AT LEAST 1/2 Tris/Plum.
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Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:19 pm

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Pls don't call it a scumslip because I didn't say 'died and flipped town.'
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Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:38 pm

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i'm around for a bit, catching up now
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Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:40 pm

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In post 3332, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3328, MathBlade wrote:Like I am pretty sure you’re trying to rile me up to lynch you so we don’t lynch Ari but maaan.
this doesn't even make sense ....
it's too convoluted to make sense ...
math, can you explain what exactly scum!rc was thinking yesterday when he nearly brought scum!ari to a lynch and then suddenly backed off,
and then why he'd today be trying to rile you up to lynch him over ari when we all know that rc is a better scum player who is acutely aware of bussing and is more likely to endgame in vaccuum ... ?
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