Team Mafia 2020: Open Setup - Game Over

[Micc]

Votecount 2.09

Elsa Jay (4) -

unwnd, Hectic, OkaPoka, pisskop

pisskop (4) -

DrDolittle, Nancy Drew 39, bob3141, NaCl

NaCl (2) -

Titus, Elsa Jay

unwnd (1) -

Amrun

Not Voting (2) -

Something_Smart, Eddie Cane

With 13 players alive it takes 7 votes to lynch.

The deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2020-01-28 02:10:00).

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, it bothers me how much you're defending NaCl here when he's your weakest townread.

Explain to me why you sr him, because I legit don’t understand why? Is it all VC based or something else?

[Nancy Drew 39]

@NaCl, Hectic is the sole vote on Pine and it’s just a theory if scum wanted to push him but since Hectic was the one who wanted to lynch Pine the most, I could definitely see scum killing Pine to cast suspicion on him.

[Hectic]

Then as the game progressed and Eddie looked more towny and Pops started arguing with Amrun, and you moved to a more-middle of the road stance on her and saying that she could be town or she could be scum, 180ing on your opinion on Eddie from before. At no point did you really take a firm stance on defending pops but rather you were more trying to call it off from the sidelines.

Like it felt as though you thought pops was town but weren't willing to take a stand relative to your read on her. Which is why I say you were soft defending her. Despite her being your strongest townread you didn't really care to try and stop the wagon and actually hard defend her, and were instead vanity-wagoning Pine.

I don't think this is true at all though. Annoying to admit it, but I had her as a top townread and made several posts on why the wagon on her was bad. I know that can be scummy as well if I'm just scum openly defending her, but I don't see where your "more-middle of the road stance" thing is coming from. I'll go find some posts now.

[pisskop]

Doodles, have you read my iso and my progression on pops?

[Hectic]

Pops keeps attacking/shading people who have potential to defend her, and aren't on her wagon. She did it earlier with me when talking about how my wagon could be a town-driven scumwagon, right after I'd made some posts defending her. And now she's attacking Bob when she's probably aware that Bob has a tendency to OMGUS, and scum!her really can't afford to do that right now. I think this flips town.

Eh, it's sprinkled throughout my ISO actually, but this was the main reason towards the end why I thought she was town.

[Hectic]

Time to read this DDL case on Pissy

[Hectic]

Yeah, 3440 is largely similar to my thoughts when I made my post on Pissy's progression on Pops. The flip flopping and then looking towards the NaCl/Eddie wagons before returning on Pops is hecka scummy.

[Hectic]

Elsa is literally doing nothing though. He's actively ignoring difficult questions and not engaging. Think it's more likely he's scum rather than town who doesn't care whatsoever. Also, his logic for hoping Pops' flips town so he garners some suspicion and starts tryharding is dubious.

[pisskop]

nah thats so weak he cant even string together an actual narrative.

[pisskop]

all doodles can muster is something about how I was fency about pops but somehow really nervous

[pisskop]

and he has to cherry pick my posts to make that hold together.

[pisskop]

How the hell do I not got a single vote? Why are we back on Pops? Who the fuck is Eddie?

I have so many questions.

so read

Just a reminder this this isnt town

[Hectic]

What made you think Pops was towny towards the end?

[pisskop]

Spoiler: .

Okay, let's look at it a different way I suppose.

12 of us have neighborhoods, so 6 in total. 3 scum, 1 in each neighborhood. 3/6.

I've been informed math is scummy VOTE: Elsa Jay

A little late for what feels like an RVS vote? Maybe this was an attempt to progress the game?

I see no harm in making my tardy RVS vote during my catchup.

fair.

Not how buddies interact.

Pops gimme an eddie case

Again, pushing other peoples agenda is not how somebody interacts with a buddy.

I said he would endgame me, and he quoted me saying he would endgame me and said "get fucked kid"

that is bragging about endgaming me

But i mean, saying that to a not dead player is tantamount to suicide?

My interactions with pops are not ones designed to save pops, nor push another agenda. This is where I point how pops' claim to be trolled is inconsistent with how scum play.

Spoiler: .

that weird interaction wrt the boasting in the hood and pops not vioting eddie until now tho. whats up pops? y no vote b4?

VOTE: eddie

ill revote to flip pops, but I think this is the new flavor of the week.

My reasons for going after eddie here are for his

self-admitted

scummy play d1. Pops being eddies neighbour precludes pops and eddie being scum. either or.

OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?

Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Here Im clearly indicting that im sorting both players.

OK, could you ISO Eddie and look at his interactions with you and Pops (he hard scumreads you both), and tell us what you think of his alignment?

Do you think Eddie / Me is SvT?

I think Pops/Eddie was TvS

Youre town who got into fisticuffs

Based on?

Which one?

Eddie v pops is because they share a hood, eddie is trolling, and pops is admittedly acting funny.

Krazy is town because they feel and contribuite like it. I have no meta on Krazy, but like their play. Their early game was weak, but the stuff from before he voted eddie is gold.

And i share my views on eddie pops, continuing to focus on the pair. I may not have a definite side chosen here, but unless youre claiming i bussed pops

indirectly

theres no scum value in trying to ML eddy when pops looks like shit for it and i cant maneuver out of a pops lynch. In which case why be so indirect about pops?

Spoiler: .

I think pops might be town tbh. Theyre reads are consistent.

I dont recall pops' scumgame. Anyone have an insight?

Pops Piss Pine would be a wild solve

but not a

Krazy

solve . . .

And here I doend up siding with pops. Theyre pocketing me fairly hard, btw, and you can see it, especially at the EoD here:

VOTE: salt because I liked pisskop's meme.

lets be perfectly clear that any potential associations and buddying is all one sided, EDDIE AND POLKA

Ive already promised a certain lady id vote pops to flip them and move this train along.

Well the question is is pops antispewing

no the question is: are they scum?

And finally, this is where I reiterate, as in have multiple times, that I am willing to take pops. And Im willing to engage over them.

[pisskop]

To cherry pick my iso like doodles and heckboy have done is lazy and lowtier.

[pisskop]

[Titus]

Nancy, it bothers me how much you're defending NaCl here when he's your weakest townread.

Explain to me why you sr him, because I legit don’t understand why? Is it all VC based or something else?

The slot started pretty lurktastic. I get the creeps when reading his posts.

I'm also at the point where I feel pretty comfortable with saying the solution likely lies in pisskop, you [:(], and NaCl. Everyone else has given me strong, heavy town moments.

You've given me brownish moments, which is why I wanted you to have a chance to defend yourself before any wagon might emerge.

Pisskop is the only vote that I feel could have been a bus. Pisskop NaCl is a very viable team.

I don't have any interest in voting EJ.

[Titus]

Pisskop, interactions can be coached.

Why won't you join my NaCl wagon?

[pisskop]

oka wants me on elsa for raisins

Talk to papa poke

[pisskop]

besides, I dont TR nacl, and would happily send him off.

he just isn really in the spotlight today

[pisskop]

Pisskop, interactions can be coached.

right, they can.

However what I just posted inst simply my interactions with pops.

[Hectic]

I want to marry post 2466, save up a 401k with it and retire in florida, then relax on the beach together while complaining about the condo association raising the prices and how culture needs to stop changing

I was gonna point out how I don't see anything Pops did before Pissy's flip on her to be considered as pocketing or a reason to change his mind, but then I noticed the above post...

[pisskop]

She showed me her lint collection

[Titus]

besides, I dont TR nacl, and would happily send him off.

he just isn really in the spotlight today

Vote him. Make him in the spotlight. You want to show you're town. Vote who you want dead. No excuses accepted here.