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Player	Votes	L-X	Voters
TiphaineDeath	6	L-1	popsofctown, Eve, Sujimichi, alimdia, Dongfish, Pine
Dongfish	2	L-5	Blatant Scum, gobbledygook
alimdia	1	L-6	TiphaineDeath
Not Voting	---	---	GuyInFreezer, Zenith, Wake88, Aeronaut

The day will end in (expired on 2020-01-25 22:00:00) or when a lynch is achieved.
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[Pine]

FTR, I'm thinking that TD's vote on alimdia (and vice versa) is distancing/bussing respectively.

[wrong fish]

Pine help me get into this game, im on the stuggle bus my friend.

Fishy

[Zenith]

You're welcome to think whatever you want. I pay attention and keep personal notes. Have released personal notes pt to public at the end of completed game before.

I think you miss the point. Withholding your thoughts does not help advance the game, and sharing them does. I do not see the benefit to town for you to withhold them.

Blue green 42 burritos mmm sriracha kittens moonlight nefarious rasta beetle.

Sharing every thought would be a antitown. Not witholding anything worth sharing.

@Anyone
May I have permission to vote for alimdia?

Why are you asking permission to vote for someone again?

Why not?

So what you are saying is that you have no opinions or reads about everyone else? Since that's what we're trying to get you to share, not what you ate for breakfast.

Also...1) you never asked permission to vote for people in your other games.
2) by asking everyone, you attempt to remove responsibility from yourself

Nonsense.
VOTE: alimdia

[Wake1]

Break down of the case on Tiphaine?

Doesn't seem like there's much if any resistance on that wagon.

[Pine]

I’m growing to despise that argument. Even assuming both of TD’s partners decided to stick their necks out to defend him (unlikely) that would only be two people. “Resistance” is really only valid in large games where there’s a substantial scumteam covering one another and lategame when the ratio is more perilous.

Sup Fishy. Can you get me into this game? The weird thing is that it has some of my favorite players, but I’m not switched on yet

[alimdia]

I’m growing to despise that argument. Even assuming both of TD’s partners decided to stick their necks out to defend him (unlikely) that would only be two people. “Resistance” is really only valid in large games where there’s a substantial scumteam covering one another and lategame when the ratio is more perilous.

Sup Fishy. Can you get me into this game? The weird thing is that it has some of my favorite players, but I’m not switched on yet

By the way, BS made the same argument.

Explain your town read? This really reads like a soft defense.

My point is, that he didn't do anything scummy at all, yet was catapulted to L-2.
+ some minor tonal reads.

Alimidia, what are you wanting answered with your second “why” to me?

Just wanna hear your reasonings basically

Pops is posing lots of original thoughts rather than trite buzzword scumhunting which is typical of scum.
Blatant Scum is blatant scum. I mean it is in the name. Can he be anymore obvious?

You already commented on my Zenith suspicions, which we agree on. Yay!

I don't see how BS is scum atm, but I can agree on your pops read.

alimdia would have had three votes and TiphaineDeath four. To say that your vote placed on anyone else would have been equivalent is disingenuous. Why is it better to take TiphaineDeath from four to five than alimdia from two to three? To simply create a larger wagon is not a good answer, as is it not also useful to review wagons of similar size?

Normally I agree, but at this stage of the game I would disagree.

UNVOTE:

I think a Sujimichi, Eve foundation for a town block is a good start.

VOTE: Dongfish this is probably scum for that vote though

So you think TD is town because of DongFish's vote?

Also saying something like "I didn't do it, and even if I did it's not bad," is hardcore lawyer talk, and, yeah, you guessed it, pretty damn scummy.

Agree ^

This is the extent of you pointing out why I'm scummy btw.

What more reasoning do I need to find you scummy?
Posts 243 and 244 were pretty sus..

Also what's this thing you're doing where you ask everyone for permission to vote for someone? Do what you wish so that people can judge you for it later, not pawn it off on groupthink.

I would like to vote you. I asked for permission to vote you. How is asking for permission pawning anything off on group think? I'm not sheeping or asking who to vote.

Nobody has given permission yet either.

If someone, anyone could just humor and grant permission each time I ask, then we could pretend I never asked and functionally it wouldn't matter.

So basically you think speaking in 'lawyer talk' = I'm scum.
And as others have said... asking for permission IS pawning off on group think. @everyone, I'd like your input on this.
The only exception is if.... as someone pointed out, your role actually needs permission for you to vote....

I think a Sujimichi, Eve foundation for a town block is a good start.

VOTE: Dongfish this is probably scum for that vote though

why do you townread me?

zenith - i give you permission to vote alimdia but only if you're town - if you're scum please vote sujimichi instead

You're welcome to think whatever you want. I pay attention and keep personal notes. Have released personal notes pt to public at the end of completed game before.

I think you miss the point. Withholding your thoughts does not help advance the game, and sharing them does. I do not see the benefit to town for you to withhold them.

Blue green 42 burritos mmm sriracha kittens moonlight nefarious rasta beetle.

Sharing every thought would be a antitown. Not witholding anything worth sharing.

@Anyone
May I have permission to vote for alimdia?

Why are you asking permission to vote for someone again?

Why not?

So what you are saying is that you have no opinions or reads about everyone else? Since that's what we're trying to get you to share, not what you ate for breakfast.

Also...1) you never asked permission to vote for people in your other games.
2) by asking everyone, you attempt to remove responsibility from yourself

Nonsense.
VOTE: alimdia

Nonsense? That's all you got?

[alimdia]

Pine, what you think about Zenith?

[Sujimichi]

Actually, I'll follow your lead, buttercup. That fake Townslip does look pretty forced.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Do you have any original thoughts of your own? This is the second time you have used popsofctown's viewpoint to support your own actions.

[Sujimichi]

Break down of the case on Tiphaine?

Doesn't seem like there's much if any resistance on that wagon.

Will be reading over the game tonight.

Did this happen? Are you going to share your thoughts?

[Sujimichi]

Nonsense.
VOTE: alimdia

Are you not able to answer my questions, or did you ignore it?

[popsofctown]

I am not sure exactly what's happening this game, but alimdia seems a lot townier than town alimdia.

If any of you lynch Sujimichi after I die this game, I will come after you. He's being really protown independent of his townslip which I think is actually like the safest most reliable townslip I've seen in half a year.

[Zenith]

You're welcome to think whatever you want. I pay attention and keep personal notes. Have released personal notes pt to public at the end of completed game before.

I think you miss the point. Withholding your thoughts does not help advance the game, and sharing them does. I do not see the benefit to town for you to withhold them.

Blue green 42 burritos mmm sriracha kittens moonlight nefarious rasta beetle.

Sharing every thought would be a antitown. Not witholding anything worth sharing.

@Anyone
May I have permission to vote for alimdia?

Why are you asking permission to vote for someone again?

Why not?

So what you are saying is that you have no opinions or reads about everyone else? Since that's what we're trying to get you to share, not what you ate for breakfast.

Also...1) you never asked permission to vote for people in your other games.
2) by asking everyone, you attempt to remove responsibility from yourself

Nonsense.
VOTE: alimdia

Nonsense? That's all you got?

That's the summary of your comments I was responding to.

So basically you think speaking in 'lawyer talk' = I'm scum.

Not quite what I said. Close though.

So what you are saying is that you have no opinions or reads about everyone else? Since that's what we're trying to get you to share, not what you ate for breakfast.

Not even close to what I said. Also a strange thing to suggest given the previous quote containing a read or opinion about someone else.

Also...1) you never asked permission to vote for people in your other games.
2) by asking everyone, you attempt to remove responsibility from yourself

1. So what? What's your point?
2. Howso? Seems like non-sequitur combined with baseless and incorrect assertion. I'm responsible for my actions and votes. That doesn't somehow change just because I ask for permission to vote. I'd also prefer if someone anyone would simply humor my request and grant permission each time. That way functionally we could pretend I never asked, because there wouldn't be a functional difference between my always being given permission to vote, and the always having permission to vote that everyone else enjoys without asking.

So misrep, attempt to strawman, non-sequitur, and erroneous assertion; or summed up: nonsense.

[Pine]

Actually, I'll follow your lead, buttercup. That fake Townslip does look pretty forced.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Do you have any original thoughts of your own? This is the second time you have used popsofctown's viewpoint to support your own actions.

Not really, but I don’t need to. I’m openly skimming this game because I’m busy. I don’t like D1 and when I find someone who appears to be obvTown whose instincts I trust, I’m going to go with them.

And knock it off with the “are you going to answer my questions” bit. You aren’t entitled to have every little question answered, and demanding answers is a good way to entrench people against giving them. You get more flies with honey etc

[popsofctown]

I disagree with Pine about which day phase is most awesome, but I agree TD is scums.

[Pine]

I disagree with Pine about which day phase is most awesome, but I agree TD is scums.

You do your thing D1, and I’ll be the hero in the midgame

[gobbledygook]

First three votes on this wagon are good. I am going to trust that townbloc.

Scum is in {Aeronaut, Dongfish, TD?}

[popsofctown]

Turkey you're not in my townbloc yet but you could be would you like to fill out an application?

[popsofctown]

If Sujimichi has a good track record of reads I could blindsheep him on you maybe. But you should still fill out an application out of respect for process.

[gobbledygook]

Turkey you're not in my townbloc yet but you could be would you like to fill out an application?

I would like to fill out an application

[gobbledygook]

What does the application entail

[Sujimichi]

Actually, I'll follow your lead, buttercup. That fake Townslip does look pretty forced.

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

Do you have any original thoughts of your own? This is the second time you have used popsofctown's viewpoint to support your own actions.

Not really, but I don’t need to. I’m openly skimming this game because I’m busy. I don’t like D1 and when I find someone who appears to be obvTown whose instincts I trust, I’m going to go with them.

And knock it off with the “are you going to answer my questions” bit. You aren’t entitled to have every little question answered, and demanding answers is a good way to entrench people against giving them. You get more flies with honey etc

You will find that I do not ask questions about everything that has been posted, so the questions I do ask I would like answered as they have game relevance. That is why I asked them. I'm not sure why you think I should knock that off or what you hoped to accomplish by telling me that, because I certainly will not.

[popsofctown]

Turkey you're not in my townbloc yet but you could be would you like to fill out an application?

I would like to fill out an application

Most of it is the mission statement about laying down your life to protect Sujimichi and popsofctown. You should also list your time zone and whether you are applying as a townie or townsiding SK

[gobbledygook]

Turkey you're not in my townbloc yet but you could be would you like to fill out an application?

I would like to fill out an application

Most of it is the mission statement about laying down your life to protect Sujimichi and popsofctown. You should also list your time zone and whether you are applying as a townie or townsiding SK

Oh that’s easy. On mage path I don’t even need to risk my own life. I will he applying as townsiding SK

VOTE: TD

[Sujimichi]

Why did you hammer TiphaineDeath?