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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 am

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I mean...

He's pretty cute. RC has never once tr-d me correctly, including a game when we were both innod by two separate cops. The read does look genuine though!
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:33 am

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In post 2122, Bitmap wrote:
In post 2119, Jingle wrote:Tell RC he's cute.
He said if it's not u, then it's hito, but said it's probably you.
He said it's been revised 50/50 on hito/jingle.
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:34 am

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In post 2125, Jingle wrote:I mean...

He's pretty cute. RC has never once tr-d me correctly, including a game when we were both innod by two separate cops. The read does look genuine though!
Lucky. I want to be scum read by RC. He literally townreads me as town and then ignores me for the rest of the game so I have to act incredibly stupid for him to notice me senpai.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 1435, hitogoroshi wrote:haha sorry Ali I went to bed after posting that and now I have work. But good for you townie as shit reaction because that was pretty clearly motivated by guilt and not fear. Will engage more tonight (but late tonight cause I have Unknown Armies after work)
RC wants this quoted with no comment and wanted to add he wasn't town reading mena at the time.
In post 1425, Bitmap wrote:Hi. I have actual messages from
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She said that I've been completely mistreated this game and that is not fair for me. She believes Klick and ofrhz (there's you're town read from NSG, ofrhz) are both locktown and has weaker town reads on [Shadoweh, Jingle, Kerset]. Her scum pool is right now [Menalque, Chemise, Reundo, Alisae] and thinks out of all of them, Alisae is most likely scum.

She has more things to say but wanted to know if I was okay with paraphrasing her blocks of text and I said that's fine so expect some more NSG in this thread down the road.
Once again: why vote me when I was your mastina greenflip suspicion, when you (presumably) think mastina is very likely to flip red?

Also here, have some bonus questions to drive engagement: do you disagree with my assessment above that Alisae's reaction ( and the huge spew that followed) was driven by guilt for non-cooperation vs. some more scummy motivation? What do you think was alisae-scum's thought process for eir stuff just now?

I also desperately need to hear how NSG got locktown for ofr from ofr pretty brazenly tooting around without any sorta scumread on anything. Especially with menalque in the scumpool.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:36 am

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He said he wanted this quoted with no comment at this time and wanted to let everyone know he was not townreading mena at the time.
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 2123, Bitmap wrote:No I should definitely reach lylo.
Nah.

First of all, we shouldn't hit LYLO at all. There's just not that many suspect players left. Second of all, if mastina is BP IC then we're pretty near autowin already. Third of all, if you're hated you mechanically can't be taken to LYLO because, you know, autoloss. Fourth, I'm pretty sure I had something for this.

With that said, I'm not on board with lynching you today, and I think today is probably massclaim but want to think more about it before committing.
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:38 am

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I'm only hated for today. Not infinite bby.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:42 am

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Eh, the other points still stand and you're not gonna live that long as town if we do somehow approach LYLO anyway.

Forgive me if I get a little ramble-y soon, I need to think and I'm probably gonna do it here instead of the Team PT cause I don't think anything I'm thinking about is especially damning.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:47 am

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RC wanted to say stuff.

Basically he's saying either that if hito is as good as the hype is around him, speedlynch him cause his play is below the floor of a decently good player.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:48 am

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hi rc
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:48 am

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Also I’m willing to fullclaim today but only after Kerset does
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:50 am

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No claims yet please and thank you. We might not need them.

As it is, ofhrz dies tonight. If we can keep that state of affairs without negatively impacting our chances of lynching scum, I'd appreciate it.
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:50 am

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He sends you hearts.

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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:51 am

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Flips:

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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:54 am

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In post 2137, Bitmap wrote:
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:55 am

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oh yeah obligatory i was right about this not being role madness
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 11:59 am

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Mechanical reads:

Outed:
Mastina
ofhrz

Softed:
Chem
Kers

Received an invention:
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Leaving:
Jingle
Shadoweh
hitogoroshi
Klick

One of those 4 is confirmable. Therefore those 4 should not claim unless lynch is imminent today, I think. I need to look back at Mena/Gamma D1 to see what the wagons say, but I feel like we can probably strike some more names based on who was integral in swinging Reundo.

I can make a pretty solid towncase for myself if needed, but honestly it's probably better if mastina does it. Based on Chem's daystart, he's 85% town.

That leaves a suspect pool of Bitmap/Shadow/hito/Klick/Jingle/Kers.
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 2140, Chemist1422 wrote:oh yeah obligatory i was right about this not being role madness
Obligatory role madness doesn't necessarily mean no VT's, but can in fact mean few VTs.
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:00 pm

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I had my own reads but no one wants to hear bitmap reads so I'ma just have NSG carry this game.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:01 pm

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In post 2142, Jingle wrote:
In post 2140, Chemist1422 wrote:oh yeah obligatory i was right about this not being role madness
Obligatory role madness doesn't necessarily mean no VT's, but can in fact mean few VTs.
that’s a PR-heavy game
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:07 pm

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Note: Reundo wagon is pure with exception of Mena at . Wagon shrinks until Kerset vote in 1913. Double bus strongman D1 when momentum seems to be moving to Bitmap/hito soft implies Kerset town. Reundo final wagon is {
Menalque
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ofrhz
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Alisae
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Chemist1422
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Bitmap likely town cw? Bitmap, ask RC how much of his hito read is wagonomics, please. Also I do care to hear your reads if they're on those players who aren't largely mechanically solved and if you disagree on the mechanical clears I'd like to know why.
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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:09 pm

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In post 2144, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 2142, Jingle wrote:
In post 2140, Chemist1422 wrote:oh yeah obligatory i was right about this not being role madness
Obligatory role madness doesn't necessarily mean no VT's, but can in fact mean few VTs.
that’s a PR-heavy game
Role Madness refers to a type of game where most or all of the players have power roles; that is, there are few to no true Vanilla Townies.
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:09 pm

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L2Lingo.
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:14 pm

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In post 2099, Chemist1422 wrote:Kerset I want you to claim your role and actions
I am JOAT of 3 one shot abilities. I used
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now chemist your turn to claim
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Fri Jan 17, 2020 12:26 pm

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Okay. I'm interested in sorting in Kerset/Klick/hito today.

I don't think Shadow sits on her hands and doesn't do anything to either bus or save when the strongman is going down, particularly when bitmap wagon has some strong voices behind it at the time and more than a few people who scumread him.

Bitmap, similarly, is just kinda sitting there doing nothing at EoD. RC is more than capable of pushing him to start another wagon or bus, even if we assume bitmap is grossly incompetent at scum (which, for the record, I don't believe to be the case). Instead, bit is vanity pushing Ali, which is a wagon that pretty much anyone could see didn't have legs. E wasn't townread per say, but e definitely wasn't getting lynched without a crazy amount of effort. Even if RC doesn't have the time to defend, there should be at least some attempt to grab towncred from the reundo lynch.

ofhrz is dead scum's vanity vote, in a comfortable position on the Reundo wagon and had been there for quite some time, and is claimed vig.

Chem doesn't have a reason to come in softing a guilty on Kers as scum. It's just going to raise questions he doesn't need.

Kers/Klick are both in positions where they could definitely have seen the writing on the wall and were just piling on, but Kerset is actually leagues better timing wise despite both the guilty the squicky feel of the almost hammer.

hito, otoh, is arguably the person most actively attempting to keep Reundo alive by abandoning a weak 1v1 on shadow that wasn't gaining traction to push bitmap who had a fair amount of support from all angles.

Note to self, 2025 mentions DACC members as the lynch targets, soft implying no SK. Additionally, this is a typo, and I should make fun of peepee for it later.
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