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[Egix96]

So your read on profii is town because our reasoning for accusing him is lackluster? That makes him an auto town?

That's basically it yeah.

[insomnia]

VOTE: egix

@ me if anyone wants to wagon alch

[insomnia]

meh nvm

VOTE: Alch

[Ame]

Hopefully I should not be needing to elaborate.

Please do.

[Ame]

The Chimera is only suspicious for getting involved in a conversation of another, which they had no strong commitment in! It is so!

Which post are you referring to?

[Ame]

On balance I have Alchemist as a slight town lean.

I’m still happy with my Profii vote - there’s nothing about his play thus far that makes me think he’s Town.

Based on this reasoning, what makes profii a better play over EV, Looker, Wimpy?

[Ame]

So what are you scum reading me for again?

Mostly for post 56 which felt a little exaggerated and forced to me. Followed by your immediate retraction about two minutes later. To me it read like 'oh shit I said something that might be perceived as scummy better retract it real quick.'

It's not a strong read tbh but it's a start.

I like this thought-process, I think Frost is Town.

You already had him as town, why did you go back to 133 in your thread reading?

[Egix96]

Hopefully I should not be needing to elaborate.

Please do.

Spoiler:

[Ame]

Did you not like my question?

I thought you were asking each of us if we were town, which I didn't see the point in answering. I've had egix in the obv town category since around his prodding into the profii votes. His posting style is so happy-go-lucky and lacks guilt / nervousness.

I'm still considering the others.

[JTheophrastus Bartholomew]

@chara
Could you explain what you mean by "hasn't responded to my 64"? You didn't write post 64 and you don't have 64 posts so I'm at a loss to what you mean.
Also V/LA until Monday because sports but I'm not posting much anyway so that probably won't change much

[Alchemist21]

Okay, I think I'm here now. First, the simple approach.

@Ame / JTheophrastus Bartholomew / Luca Blight / Egix96 / profii:

Who among you is town? I don't really expect any of you to know, but it's good for managing consistency in the future. I personally have no idea.

VOTE: Luca Blight Votes keep the game moving

Why did you pick these names for this question. Why did you vote Luca out of all of them?

I don't like the direction you're taking with this question. Hopefully I should not be needing to elaborate.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Alchemist

Yes you need to elaborate, because this looks like you’re just making an easy jump onto my wagon.

[insomnia]

Lol totally missed that Egix vote.

Egix, please explain, I'm lost.

[EeveeLution Army]

Hopefully I should not be needing to elaborate.

Please do.

btw i love your avatar. such a good anime so far.

[EeveeLution Army]

VOTE: egix

@ me if anyone wants to wagon alch

this just doesnt feel right to me. especially the quick turn around in the next post. what exactly were you hoping to do there

[insomnia]

> i initially scum read him
> i placed a vote
> read his post and thought "there's no way a wolf would be this blunt about a fucked up read like that one"
> moved back to my most confident scum read because I wasn't expecting that reaction out of egix

[gobbledygook]

VC 1.3

Looker
EeveeLution Army
Wimpy
Ame (1) - Looker
Luca Blight
Alchemist21 (3) - Macabre, Egix96, insomnia
Chara
Macabre (2) - Alchemist21, Wimpy
insomnia (1) - AaronFrost
JTheophrastus Bartholomew (2) - profii, Chara
profii (2) - Ame, Luca Blight
AaronFrost
Egix96 (1) - JTheophrastus Bartholomew

Not Voting

(1) — EeveeLution Army

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-01-24 16:00:00)[/color]

[Egix96]

Yes you need to elaborate, because this looks like you’re just making an easy jump onto my wagon.

Ah, but then it would be too soon...

[Chara]

@chara
Could you explain what you mean by "hasn't responded to my 64"? You didn't write post 64 and you don't have 64 posts so I'm at a loss to what you mean.
Also V/LA until Monday because sports but I'm not posting much anyway so that probably won't change much

meant to type my 164 , sorry.

insomnia: regarding JB, there might be more to it than i saw, but he seemed to form the conclusion from one occurence. he also called egix's fairly neutral post "throwing shade", and while he did later say he TRed profii, i didn't find asking about the votes a bad question given Egix's later explanation. don't scumread Egix, no. i also don't see earlygame scum posting exclusively to defend their partner, it's too obvious an avenue in a gamestate where starting wagons is easy.

241: a note, expecting me to obvtown every game and at all times is expecting me to effort 100%, essentially. i will when i need to (if i'm pushed and it gets bad) or when i get very invested (i'm sure it will happen, i have things to care about already.)

to the crow: you've quoted posts i've already read. they're what i referred to collectively as "bad vibes". i'm not saying there aren't reasons to scumread profii, there are and i agree. i'm just more interested in the play surrounding profii.

Egix: disagreeing with reasons to scumread someone should be a null read. unless you're scumreading the players on profii?

249: well, i'm no longer null on Egix. how is asking why Looker voted Luca or picked those names in particular a bad direction? it sounds like you have some "plan" by your last post, but i don't understand what you coulf have picked out.

[Chara]

Like maybe you could've been trying to instigate something there but it honestly seemed like you were trying to figure out whether his reaction to pressure would be personality indicative or alignment indicative which is +town points for you

Why though? I think this is a... what do you call it? Flimsy trust tell?

Again, just because he asked if Wimpy's easily falling to pressure doesn't mean that :

a) He's not gonna push him
b) He's actually gonna consider this at some point

Asking him if he falls easily for pressure is literally pointless here. I don't see why it's worthy of town points. It's not sorting Wimpy's role and he didn't even come to the right conclusion with regards to pressure.

I guess the best way to put it is that Alch is really methodical in his approach to what he chooses to focus on out of his own volition. The town read on me, the pressure thing with Wimpy.

Again, asking someone whether they are easily pressured is not an indicator for figuring them, since it's asked in a way that's NAI.

Realistically speaking, when are you ever going to stop pushing someone that you think is scum just because they flail as either alignment? lol

is this why Alch is scum, or an explanation for why Frost's idea doesn't make him towny?

either way, i don't quite understand the part where you talk about Alch being methodical. is that something he does in general, or are you saying him being methodical is strange this game and therefore scummy.

[AaronFrost]

Please elaborate on your Wimpy Townread too.

It's a weak read mostly based on gut tbh but he comes off as honest if a little blunt.

[Macabre]

I don't think they're scum together if that's what you are referring to.

Does this sleepy boy still believe the Colonel outed the Burger as an innocent? What did the exchange between these two really accomplish? Layers!

[Macabre]

The Chimera is only suspicious for getting involved in a conversation of another, which they had no strong commitment in! It is so!

Which post are you referring to?

This Chimera put undue weight upon the Burger without involving themselves into the conflict! Opposite of the Colonel, impossible to be informed of! Heart of darkness!

[Macabre]

Other parts of the case brought against the Chimera are not valid! However! One-eye's reduction of the events that have transpired is suspicious! Doom!

VOTE: Chara

[AaronFrost]

Like maybe you could've been trying to instigate something there but it honestly seemed like you were trying to figure out whether his reaction to pressure would be personality indicative or alignment indicative which is +town points for you

Why though? I think this is a... what do you call it? Flimsy trust tell?

Again, just because he asked if Wimpy's easily falling to pressure doesn't mean that :

a) He's not gonna push him
b) He's actually gonna consider this at some point

Asking him if he falls easily for pressure is literally pointless here. I don't see why it's worthy of town points. It's not sorting Wimpy's role and he didn't even come to the right conclusion with regards to pressure.

I guess the best way to put it is that Alch is really methodical in his approach to what he chooses to focus on out of his own volition. The town read on me, the pressure thing with Wimpy.

Again, asking someone whether they are easily pressured is not an indicator for figuring them, since it's asked in a way that's NAI.

Realistically speaking, when are you ever going to stop pushing someone that you think is scum just because they flail as either alignment? lol

I mean yeah he could push him for other reasons if Wimpy were to do something scummy but if he were to then push Wimpy for flailing or responding poorly to pressure then that would look super disingenuous. I suppose scum!Alch could also use that to avoid pushing that angle.

Basically the question itself was eh but what he did with the response to it was fine.

[Chara]

tell me, dear crow, what it is i've simplified. is your reason for scumreading profii the only valid one?