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[Chara]

i do have two eyes, you know. it's a bit rude to say one doesn't exist merely because it looks a little strange.

[AaronFrost]

One thing I find interesting about this wagon is that no one has really jumped to profii's defense. Most people seem to have him as a scumread and/or are voting him right now. Is anybody townreading him right now? If so why?

I am, and it's for something similar to what you've pointed out here - I think that he's been under too much suspicion for too little reasoning (or, to put it another way, I see people voting him but I don't find the reasoning to be all that compelling). I would be very surprised if he flipped red.

Are you townreading him regardless of the fact that his push has had no resistance? Like what are your thoughts on his posting right now?

[Macabre]

This crow will not recognize the greeting of the chimera, its initial vote, or past behavior of the Chimera as valid evidence. Inadmissible!

[Chara]

actually, i think i do TR egix. i implied earlier that i was scumleaning, but i had misunderstood what 247 was saying.

[Macabre]

Furthermore, One-eye has stolen a term from the scarf boy to make a case in defense of the Chimera! Yet, this One-eye does not combat scarf boy directly. It acts without conviction. Careful!

[AaronFrost]

Okay, I think I'm here now. First, the simple approach.

@Ame / JTheophrastus Bartholomew / Luca Blight / Egix96 / profii:

Who among you is town? I don't really expect any of you to know, but it's good for managing consistency in the future. I personally have no idea.

VOTE: Luca Blight Votes keep the game moving

Why did you pick these names for this question. Why did you vote Luca out of all of them?

I don't like the direction you're taking with this question. Hopefully I should not be needing to elaborate.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Alchemist

You might need to elaborate bc I'm not sure what you're getting at here

[Chara]

Furthermore, One-eye has stolen a term from the scarf boy to make a case in defense of the Chimera! Yet, this One-eye does not combat scarf boy directly. It acts without conviction. Careful!

defense of profii? i scumread profii.

as for stealing a term, i'm not sure which you mean, but it is highly possible i read something Ame said and repeated it. it's a fun fact of language that humans (or nonhumans) will tend to parrot terminology recently used by others. it's how we learn the rules of our discourse.

[Chara]

This crow will not recognize the greeting of the chimera, its initial vote, or past behavior of the Chimera as valid evidence. Inadmissible!

i object. all behaviour of the chimera is valid evidence!

[insomnia]

is this why Alch is scum, or an explanation for why Frost's idea doesn't make him towny?

Both.

I’m not sure how that helps you with anything though?

[Chara]

the part of my post directly after that question is what helps me, actually.

[Chara]

but not including that part, i don't consider asking a question with an NAI answer to be scummy, if that was your point.

[insomnia]

I think Aaron’s scum as well, he literally has no reason to have his vote on me at this point. Not only is he not accomplishing a thing by keeping it on me, but he’s also directly going against his belief that rvs is made to generate pressure and discussion, get people’s thoughts on someone and see what happens from there.

There’s virtually no attempt from aaron to even figure me out, he placed a vote for something that would look scummy and then never came back to this read.

His questions are also not figuring anyone out.

[insomnia]

He’s acting more like I’m town than someone that he’s trying to push because they’re scum by the way he’s posturing

[AaronFrost]

Furthermore, One-eye has stolen a term from the scarf boy to make a case in defense of the Chimera! Yet, this One-eye does not combat scarf boy directly. It acts without conviction. Careful!

Dearest crow, if I may interject, this bug-slayer is actually condoning the acts of they one-eyed one. I believe they and most others in this village have condemned the chimera for his actions.

[insomnia]

VOTE: AaronFrost

This or alch idrc

[AaronFrost]

I think Aaron’s scum as well, he literally has no reason to have his vote on me at this point. Not only is he not accomplishing a thing by keeping it on me, but he’s also directly going against his belief that rvs is made to generate pressure and discussion, get people’s thoughts on someone and see what happens from there.

There’s virtually no attempt from aaron to even figure me out, he placed a vote for something that would look scummy and then never came back to this read.

His questions are also not figuring anyone out.

Funny that you posted this bc I was literally about to switch my vote to profii.

VOTE: profii

I wanted to switch my vote earlier but I thought profii was at like 5 votes and I was too lazy to count them myself to check.

How am I going against my belief of RVS? When I voted for you we were pretty much out of RVS at that point and several other had responded to it saying why they think you're town which is something I've been taking into consideration.

[AaronFrost]

I think I am starting to lean town on you a bit atm but I'll need to do an ISO dive at some point which I don't have a lot of time for atm.

[insomnia]

Yeah not moving my vote, prepare for an all out war aaron.

Actually no cuz like people will say it’s t/t if we go at each other

It’s not even like I haven’t posted, I’m top poster, you had tons of shit you could’ve commented on, especially me being your only serious scum read. You’re really clinging on to that.

Push on things that are gonna make someone more probable of flipping scum, not things that makes someone look scummy, bud

P-edit : yeah i bet you were gonna switch to profii, how convenient

[profii]

I'm not sure what to do at this point.
I am obviously a point of contention today.
Generally if people want to scum read me, I figure they are free to do so and I just leave them to it.

As I think I mentioned I naturally play the devils advocate and I am learning my participation on this site (in most games, and I obviously refer to completed games only, ofc) that this role often draws scum reads because it's seen as not getting involved in the conversation or not taking a stance or whatever.

I guess the next step for me is to see if I can pick out anyone manipulating that to perch themselves on the momentum against me (I'd call it a wagon but I've no idea what the VC is...)

I have a long car journey tomorrow, I'll review the thread and see if anyone looks especially weak.

Interesting.

[insomnia]

Profii, vote aaron

[insomnia]

I saw aaron trying to distance himself from me ever since I started refuting his case centuries ago

The enchantress sees it all.

[profii]

Profii, vote aaron

why

[AaronFrost]

Do I need to comment on every single one of your posts? Just because I haven't commented on them doesn't mean I haven't been observing them or taking them into consideration. They way you respond to the vote is what's telling and I think in general you've responded fairly well to it.

I've also responded to your cases so

[insomnia]

One thing I find interesting about this wagon is that no one has really jumped to profii's defense. Most people seem to have him as a scumread and/or are voting him right now. Is anybody townreading him right now? If so why?

I am, and it's for something similar to what you've pointed out here - I think that he's been under too much suspicion for too little reasoning (or, to put it another way, I see people voting him but I don't find the reasoning to be all that compelling). I would be very surprised if he flipped red.

Are you townreading him regardless of the fact that his push has had no resistance? Like what are your thoughts on his posting right now?

Just reading this post tells me you’re posturing for voting profii.

[insomnia]

Do I need to comment on every single one of your posts? Just because I haven't commented on them doesn't mean I haven't been observing them or taking them into consideration. They way you respond to the vote is what's telling and I think in general you've responded fairly well to it.

I've also responded to your cases so

I’ve responded to it pages ago, why didn’t you state the town read and moved earlier if my reaction was townie ever since you voted me?