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Post Post #3925 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:28 pm

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In post 3897, implosion wrote:shos replaces Plum.
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Post Post #3926 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:29 pm

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Oh gawd I see the amount of oldies and I smile
anyway I'll start reading tomorrow; can anyone tell me shit about the setup though as a heads up? also PLEASE a summary?
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Post Post #3927 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:29 pm

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In post 3897, implosion wrote:shos replaces Plum.
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Post Post #3928 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 3897, implosion wrote:Saudade replaces tris.
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Post Post #3929 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:33 pm

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you can't develop reads off of a description of a game Shos.
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Post Post #3930 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:34 pm

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In post 3926, shos wrote:Oh gawd I see the amount of oldies and I smile
anyway I'll start reading tomorrow; can anyone tell me shit about the setup though as a heads up? also PLEASE a summary?
In post 3883, Saudade wrote:Cant wait to read all this 156 pages of quality content
Honestly read D2 and if you need insights on ppl Iso them.

The RC/TW/Math/Ari posts honestly shit up about 87% of D1 and it's literally not worth.
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Post Post #3931 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:36 pm

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from where I'm at it's nearly an impossibility that there isn't scum in {Ari/Tris/Plum}

so I would be interested in your reads on each other / each others predecessors when you have them.
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Post Post #3932 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:38 pm

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In post 3931, RadiantCowbells wrote:from where I'm at it's nearly an impossibility that there isn't scum in {Ari/Tris/Plum}

so I would be interested in your reads on each other / each others predecessors when you have them.
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Post Post #3933 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:43 pm

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In post 3926, shos wrote:Oh gawd I see the amount of oldies and I smile
anyway I'll start reading tomorrow; can anyone tell me shit about the setup though as a heads up? also PLEASE a summary?
Setup is unknown, 10v3 standard tho.

Rc Investigative claim. Math softed that he saw a few softs that are leading to some of his reads. I can't think of any other claims or anything pertinent to the setup in particular.

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Post Post #3934 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:07 pm

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hey i'm around, catching up
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Post Post #3935 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:08 pm

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Firebringer says hi skitter
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Post Post #3936 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:10 pm

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Post Post #3937 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:12 pm

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In post 3665, RCEnigma wrote:I'm pushing there. I'll case it or whatever when I get the chance. Also burn openwolf Ari.
sorry, you think that both ari + rc are scum ???
i don't think that universe makes much sense at all

rc i dont' see what you see in the flopz posts you quoted on p 146
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Post Post #3938 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:23 pm

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In post 3678, RadiantCowbells wrote:i can't function when i don't feel like i have a stable foundation in the game because fear of being mislynched starts to outweigh everything and i can't relax and i can't sort if i can't relax.
that's why when i get in 1v1s like duckling i just all in and end them.
rc do i have just like a very warped perception of how you play and the difference between yoru scumgame and towngame?

because i think that:

-> you care significantly more about your scumgame than towngame
-> you care more about dominating the game as scum than getting mislynched
-> you turn ~on~ in order to control the gamestate as scum and to shut down things that aren't conducive to you

and i guess the only time i can kinda think of town!you getting into a thing like this was i guess teacher's cop/doc game with me
whereas i kinda associate this sort of gamestate with scum!you

actually as i write this out i'm recalling taz mafia, and that you were town there
and i'm not sure i have that many examples with scum!you to begin with
and the only scumgame that i can think of in comparison is last time's tm but i admittedly was not in that one
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Post Post #3939 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:24 pm

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In post 3685, RadiantCowbells wrote:man.

i really don't know why i was townreading skitter ever.

i feel like that was not a thing that i should have been doing.

i feel like her response to my play here has been disgustingly scummy.
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Post Post #3940 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:24 pm

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it's not me that has a warped perception. it's you that has a warped perception, us having barely played together since 2017.
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Post Post #3941 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:26 pm

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ya i'm starting to wonder if my understanding of your meta is just ... very wrong
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Post Post #3942 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:28 pm

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i would like to say that goes without saying given your read record on me but i don't really want to get into an argument over it.
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Post Post #3943 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:29 pm

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like your 1 town game with me this year was completely out of my standard town range because the game was inactive and i just wasn't really feeling it and so i even said at the time it was more like one of my scum games until the very end of the day, our scum game as a hydra where i basically did nothing is while on the extreme end not really all that different from multiple scum games i've played.
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Post Post #3944 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:30 pm

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In post 3687, RadiantCowbells wrote:she called Ari scummy a whole bunch when he made some mediocre posts at the start of the day
then she started to go after Plum for reasons that she was relatively vague on
then when Math is repeatedly prompting her to go after Ari, her excuse is that he's not TvS with me and i'm confscum
then calls me lowkey townie in her next post for doing something that aligns exactly with a maneuver i previously made as scum
ari's posts are p bad
despite that, i dont' think he takes most of the stances he's taking if he's scum tho, he's positioning himself p horribly
i think i've made my posistion on plum p clear so do tell
and that's not my stance on you/ari, but ok
and you've made some posts that i think more likely than not comes from town!you
(although apparently my understanding of your meta is quite wrong so meh)
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Post Post #3945 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:32 pm

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In post 3691, RadiantCowbells wrote:iconeum do you agree with my assessment that skitter, like, really didn't seem like she was actually interested in voting me today
rc i didn't want to fuck up the gamestate

and you were seeming kinda sad adn despondant
and i feel a little bad going ~all in~ on people who seem upset for other reasons
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Post Post #3946 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:33 pm

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In post 3692, RadiantCowbells wrote:i've felt the entire game that skitter was kinda like... handling me with kid gloves if that makes sense? and i thought she was just trying to be nice but i'm no longer feeling that way.
i mean ....
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Post Post #3947 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:36 pm

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In post 3735, Aristophanes wrote:Like current V/LA list just grew.

Plum is replacing, Ico for the weekend, xtoxm, teacher for the weekend plus.

Tris is MIA, Bella is lowest content, RCE isn't around much, and Flopz says a few scummy lines then disappears every once in a while.

This leaves RC, Skitter, Math, and Myself as active posters and as actively talked about. This isn't a game where anyone else can be read and if one of the latter 4 gets lynched and another NK'd the game will end in a scum sweep for mere inactivity.

My reads are stagnant because the only people giving enough content to read are already solid reads and are the minority in the thread.
ari are you around? iirc you wanted to talk?

i think the bolded is kinda townie actually
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Post Post #3948 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:39 pm

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In post 3739, teacher wrote:VOTE: ari

Trying to portray yourself as active in this game - and more so than me - is kindly just all the way off. “Active poster” ari my ass.
teacher i do not tr btw

i don't feel like i have a good sense for where your reads/head is, but rather that you're popping in once in a while, and nitpicking random things and choosing to vote them

like what you're reacting to feels kinda wrong, if that makes sense
also is this a sr of ari (ie that you thought that htis post was scummy?) or are you just annoyed at him that he called himself more active than you

(which tbf over at least day2 has been kinda accurate)
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Post Post #3949 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:41 pm

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In post 3740, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3739, teacher wrote:VOTE: ari

Trying to portray yourself as active in this game - and more so than me - is kindly just all the way off. “Active poster” ari my ass.
Okay but I am?

I was inactive for the first part of the game but since my work schedule cooled off I have been here actively. I have more posts than yourself in a far shorter timespan, and I would be more active if there were people other than Math and RC to interact with on a regular basis.

Also I was talking about the weekend specifically here and you are on a V/la so really you took my post and spun it in an ilunintended direction for whatever reason.

Your vote sucks and you should feel bad about it.
Case me if you think I'm scum :)
In post 3743, Bellaphant wrote:Hi Ari.

Engage me. It's hard to post a lot of content when a lot of the thread is RC. I'm not dealing with RC today. .

Why are you scum reading teacher? It feels like you are being deliberately obtuse about him - how do you explain the hand waving you did over his RC vote? BC it feels like the handwaving you did over "Bella does this as scum...I meant she doesn't, but she could!'
In post 3744, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 3743, Bellaphant wrote:Hi Ari.

Engage me. It's hard to post a lot of content when a lot of the thread is RC. I'm not dealing with RC today. .

Why are you scum reading teacher? It feels like you are being deliberately obtuse about him - how do you explain the hand waving you did over his RC vote? BC it feels like the handwaving you did over "Bella does this as scum...I meant she doesn't, but she could!'
Hey Bella!

Do you mean his vote on TW? Because he never voted RC that I can tell.

My comment about your potential scum ability was just that. With my understanding of your abilities as it is, I presumed it to be something I could see coming from Scum!Bella. It wasn't a major point and it hasn't done much for my sorting of you. It was merely a commemtary so I could keep it in mind as the game progressed and if anyone else had a similar insight it might spark somethig unnoticed by them previously.

As for Teacher he's probably a secondary scumread atm. I should probably reread his postng but just like his surface understanding of that last post, leading to a vote on me for something I didn't actually say, he has shown a very surface level inclination for most of the game leading me t ok think he is more likely to already have the answers, as scum do.


also is scum!ari even capable of giving cogent, detailed responses to people scumreading him like this ?
in not-quite realtime, but fairly quickly?
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'Skitter you're a spirit animal's spirit animal' ~ slaxx
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