Team Mafia 2020: Normal Game (Endgame)

[Saudade]

i can't say i'm happy that you are townpinging sau because i'm scumpinging them but i'm also still pro-shos

why

[skitter30]

i think i can read saudade , we've played a lot together and his tone as one alignment as compared to the other is very different

also i want to give him space to catch up since if he's town we work super well together

pedit @rc ok what don't you like about him
@ saudade we can relitigate our history if you feel the need to but like ...

[MathBlade]

also keep in mind skitter that even if somehow scum manage to get away with keeping me alive when we massclaim it's *probably* going to be obvious the setup isn't balanced if I am not a TPR

this is a true point
ok we can deal with this tomorrow i think, if we're still both here

Why are you assuming today will be a mislynch?

VOTE: Skitter30

math i think you need to take a step back from the game and just like ~broadly reassess~
your reads are p bad imo

i don't think ari is scum here

Interesting

I asked my teammates to help in case of issues
Their biggest issue “Why isn’t Ari dead yet?”

Like that’s been the state of my discord. I asked them to reconsider and they’re all like “Nope he’s scum” *sigh*

[RadiantCowbells]

i am in no rush to push this skitter, let him catch up and shit, and i'm also willing to default to your read if you think you're confident on him

[Saudade]

i think i can read saudade , we've played a lot together and his tone as one alignment as compared to the other is very different

also i want to give him space to catch up since if he's town we work super well together

pedit @rc ok what don't you like about him
@ saudade we can relitigate our history if you feel the need to but like ...

yes u never beat me

[MathBlade]

I also didn’t like you didn’t address my point regarding you skitter.

[skitter30]

who do you think is most liekly scum in that group and why?

Kinda want to talk with RCE if he picked up my directed message in this thread before answering this, to see if he agrees with my creeping suspicion about the role of one of them. It’s the one I think is either tor or scum, and it’s the former is the only reason I haven’t pushed that slot independently before.

sorry this post feels a little cryptic and/or i don't understand what you're trying to say

[skitter30]

I also didn’t like you didn’t address my point regarding you skitter.

which point ?

[MathBlade]

also keep in mind skitter that even if somehow scum manage to get away with keeping me alive when we massclaim it's *probably* going to be obvious the setup isn't balanced if I am not a TPR

this is a true point
ok we can deal with this tomorrow i think, if we're still both here

Why are you assuming today will be a mislynch?

VOTE: Skitter30

Underlined for you to see Skitter

[skitter30]

Dammit, RCE is probably town. I took a step back and dialed my OMGUS back, as well as actually reading his posts, and they're actually pretty towny and I see effort in solving the game present.

Time to rethink some things. I honestly didn't expect this, and it became evident a lot earlier in his ISO than I ever would have thought.

@teacher wrt ari's reads
he had been scumreading him just before

Ty. I did see this but again it seemed to be moving with the board (following RCs voice iirc) rather than independent evolution, despite being worded that way.

And yes, I do have an independent scum read of ari. And I think his flip doesn’t say much about RC.

no, i'm p sure rc was still scumreading rce at the tiem (or at least, hadn't said he wasn't)
ok, why is ari scum ?

[teacher]

@rc I agree with the townblock, especially the inclusion of Ico. Flopz I’m weaker on, but including due to the ease of wagon and response. I’d like more out of that slot. But if we can get all those players onto a single wagon today I think it will be good.

I don’t agree with Skitter or RCE one of them is prob scum leaning Skitter.

I also agree with you (not on who, but on the presence of a deep wolf) but still would like that block to function together.

[skitter30]

also keep in mind skitter that even if somehow scum manage to get away with keeping me alive when we massclaim it's *probably* going to be obvious the setup isn't balanced if I am not a TPR

this is a true point
ok we can deal with this tomorrow i think, if we're still both here

Why are you assuming today will be a mislynch?

VOTE: Skitter30

Underlined for you to see Skitter

if you're talking about ari - i think he's town and i think you're just wrong on him (which i said already)
otherwise i don't know where you think i'm assuming today is a mislynch

[MathBlade]

@rc I agree with the townblock, especially the inclusion of Ico. Flopz I’m weaker on, but including due to the ease of wagon and response. I’d like more out of that slot. But if we can get all those players onto a single wagon today I think it will be good.

I don’t agree with Skitter or RCE one of them is prob scum leaning Skitter.

I also agree with you (not on who, but on the presence of a deep wolf) but still would like that block to function together.

Who are you considering possible deep suspects?

[Saudade]

I dont like ari so far

[MathBlade]

also keep in mind skitter that even if somehow scum manage to get away with keeping me alive when we massclaim it's *probably* going to be obvious the setup isn't balanced if I am not a TPR

this is a true point
ok we can deal with this tomorrow i think, if we're still both here

Why are you assuming today will be a mislynch?

VOTE: Skitter30

Underlined for you to see Skitter

if you're talking about ari - i think he's town and i think you're just wrong on him (which i said already)
otherwise i don't know where you think i'm assuming today is a mislynch

You’d only be dealing with mass claim possibly if today is a mislynch. If we lynch scum mass claim doesn’t come into this. The fact you’re saying we would deal with mass claim logic tomorrow is troubling.

[teacher]

more productive use of our time than deathtunneling ari

ok, why is ari scum ?

?????

I don’t have new things to add, which is why I hadn’t added them. If you’d like a recap, I can make one, but I don’t think it’s that productive.

[skitter30]

and that's what i'm saying wrt shos/saudade/xtoxm/bella/almost you, that if we cocnentrate on ari/rc/me/math/whatever we're never going to get content out of them, i think that pressuring the lurkers is a much more productive use of our time than deathtunneling ari or me deathtunneling rc

That’s the thing, I feel like I’ve been saying EXACTLY this since D1, but it hasn’t happened. I know I have neither the investment nor influence to make it happen, but I’d really love to make a “no discussing RC” rule for two days and see what happens in thread. It’s why, as RC pointed out, tris/plum appear together throughout my iso - me saying I need more from those slots. It’s why I tried to redirect the wagon. It’s why I began the day with a reminder that nobody was talking about xtomx. I feel like several things you have said today, I said first, and yet your nully-scum on me, for reasons I don’t quite get.

i would be thrilled with a no-discussing-rc-for-two-days rule

i would also be happy trying for plum/shos again

VOTE: plum

i honestly don't remember most of what you've said today (or that you've even been here much ... which is why i thought it was weird that you were calling ari out on being nonactive)

i don't know why i should be townreading here, and i find that alarming.
like if i'm wrong ... can you help me see that ?

[MathBlade]

I dont like ari so far

Join my Ari wagon I just left for deepwolf hunting.

It’s Math(TM) approved

[skitter30]

Interesting

I asked my teammates to help in case of issues
Their biggest issue “Why isn’t Ari dead yet?”

Like that’s been the state of my discord. I asked them to reconsider and they’re all like “Nope he’s scum” *sigh*

ok, so let's talk about ari

why exactly is ari scum (and/or why is bbmolla convinced ari is scum ?)

[teacher]

@rc I agree with the townblock, especially the inclusion of Ico. Flopz I’m weaker on, but including due to the ease of wagon and response. I’d like more out of that slot. But if we can get all those players onto a single wagon today I think it will be good.

I don’t agree with Skitter or RCE one of them is prob scum leaning Skitter.

I also agree with you (not on who, but on the presence of a deep wolf) but still would like that block to function together.

Who are you considering possible deep suspects?

RC/Skit primarily, slightly RCE but that will be resolved I hope by the question and message I have pending to him.

[RadiantCowbells]

Actually I just listened to you Skitter and went back and looked at his scum game from the Pine wars and I agree that it's like ungodly different from the one he's currently playing

I'm willing to put him a lot higher town ig

[teacher]

You and ICo are town and will never be voted by me.

[MathBlade]

Ari Skitter Plum/their replacement top team theory as of right now.

[Aristophanes]

Ari are you going to scumhunt because so far everyones been posting walls and stuff and you were just amusing yourself looking througn my posts

Yo, of course I am! Thanks for the poke! I actually got about3 pages behind because I think I found a crumb which led me to a second crumb which led me down a rabbit hole. I'm pretty alright where I landed on it but I don't want to go into it further.

And you are posting amusing things, of course I'm going to show my amusement! XD

Dammit, RCE is probably town. I took a step back and dialed my OMGUS back, as well as actually reading his posts, and they're actually pretty towny and I see effort in solving the game present.

Time to rethink some things. I honestly didn't expect this, and it became evident a lot earlier in his ISO than I ever would have thought.

@teacher wrt ari's reads
he had been scumreading him just before

Ty. I did see this but again it seemed to be moving with the board (following RCs voice iirc) rather than independent evolution, despite being worded that way.

And yes, I do have an independent scum read of ari. And I think his flip doesn’t say much about RC.

I'm pretty sure I got there before RC did but w/e that doesn't really matter I suppose.

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok Math

Why won't you vote Plum then?