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Post Post #4175 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:07 pm

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Like this is so fucking obvious
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Post Post #4176 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 4174, MathBlade wrote:@RC it’s the entire reason he wasn’t hammered day one
You begged for him to have more time to post and sort because VLA.


this

literally

never

happened

in fact

i did the opposite of this

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Post Post #4177 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:07 pm

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In post 4174, MathBlade wrote:@RC it’s the entire reason he wasn’t hammered day one
You begged for him to have more time to post and sort because VLA.


this

literally

never

happened

in fact

i did the opposite of this

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Post Post #4178 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:08 pm

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1-2-3

shos saudade mathblade

everyone else is town.
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Post Post #4179 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:08 pm

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In post 4170, RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 4168, MathBlade wrote:Because mass claim outs protectives if any.

If scum don’t realize who the protectives are then we lose the upper hand.

Right now RC either as town or scum doesn’t like the fact the block trusts me and not him.

Like mainly it’s a matter of figuring out if he’s doing this because Ari was picking up steam.

If he’s scum then...
He picked a fight with TW after TW voted him when I was pushing Ari he just waited til someone voted him. He knew that lynching a claimed detective is bad so he voted TW and kept spamming making a case impossible.

If he’s town then he can’t stand when he doesn’t get his way. Anyone else in the limelight pisses him off.

Like for the same reason we shouldn’t lynch Ari yesterday (no content b/c life) Shos has the same reason
Yet RC thinks it’s okay to pressure shos and not Ari

What exactly is the difference?
When did I ever even once hint at Ari not having enough content not being a good reason to lynch him. That never happened. You're saying it because it's a good narrative now.
I never said this. I'm okay lynching Shos because it's a scum slot that got replaced and it is still a scumslot.

Also you're suddenly talking to Skitter30 like she's town since I turned on you.
And no I am not. I am explaining a point. That’s all.

It’s beneficial to literally everyone.

I am going to go to bed now too. Seems more fun than playing with someone who can’t adult atm.
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Post Post #4180 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:08 pm

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In post 4129, MathBlade wrote:Skitter was assuming we would fail rather than pass or fail and just don’t know.

That makes her likely scum.
dude, you realize i know how to play this game, right?
and that i don't just randomly go 'hi it's time for massclaim !!!' when it's not the right time yet

you're also putting words in my mouth
i never said i wanted massclaim tomorrow

i said i would revisit rc and his claim tomororw, which is not at all the same thing

you somehow extrapolated that meant that:
a) i wanted massclaim tomorrow
b) that i
indiscriminately
wanted massclaim tomorrow (i.e. that i woudln't evalute like ... the four thousand other things that must be taken into account when figuring out if it's the right time for massclaim)

your'e also calling me scum for assuming that we're going to mislynch today ...
i did mess up and think that tomorrow is the day before lylo because i forgot at the moment that we were 12 instead of 11
but like i thought it was pretty apparent that i was only talking about the worst-case scenario

like even if i'm scum here the game is p obviously in flux and the lynch is not at all set, how can i know that we're mislynching today at this juncture, which is what you seem to be pushing me for ...
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Post Post #4181 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:09 pm

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because he is scum misrepresenting your words to try to discredit your push on plum and make sure that Ari ends up being the lynch today.
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Post Post #4182 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:09 pm

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repping into this wild game is gonna be fun
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post Post #4183 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:10 pm

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there's no need to gang up on mathblade now rc & skitter as soon as math voted skitter rc 180c'd on him wtf
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"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #4184 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:10 pm

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that's a terrible stretch lol. gl with that.
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Post Post #4185 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 4182, Saudade wrote:repping into this wild game is gonna be fun
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Post Post #4186 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 4149, Saudade wrote:
In post 4137, RadiantCowbells wrote:Look at Sau tryign to gently push the wagon onto Ari, look at Math's associatives with him this interaction fucking reeked

you will die today for this
DIE
WTF bro.

He's making a case and making a read. He looked at your posting and read the intention behind them, correctly or not, in this fashion.

If you are going to go berserker on anyone who misreads your intentions this really isn't a good passtime for you.
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Post Post #4187 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:12 pm

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In post 4138, teacher wrote:
In post 4115, skitter30 wrote:like can you articulate the reasons you're voting your strongest push, or are you just sheeping people
It was to see what would happen with a vote and more momentum. It’s a scumread I have. It’s not my strongest. It’s not just sheeping, but I thought it could add something to what had been a blah day

I will type up my thoughts on ari, but that will require a desktop and tabs not mobile. What I can say as of right now is that I haven’t seen any unique content or thought process, but more posturing. (The RCE is bit is a good example, it postures at iso-reading, but doesn’t actually give any evidence of having done so and in both instances - raising the read and discarding it - seems to follow the flow of discussion). Basically I developed a scumread about mid-day one and haven’t seen anything to move me off it.
ok, fair enough, i would like more concrete thoughts on ari when u are able to do so

so the rce bit to me read like he's trying to reevaluate and reconsider his reads
he did the same thing with like 7 other people, he said rce's iso was long but that's where he's going to look next

and just like ... i don't think he cares enough / is able enough to bother with that a scum

and again his drop of the rce read predated rc's
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Post Post #4188 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:12 pm

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how many times does Mathblade have to blatantly lie about in thread content, how many times does Mathblade have to give blatantly unbelievable reads, how many times does Mathblade have to call the scummy people scum while refusing to vote them and instead derailing effort towards towny slots
WTF bro.

He's making a case and making a read. He looked at your posting and read the intention behind them, correctly or not, in this fashion.

If you are going to go berserker on anyone who misreads your intentions this really isn't a good passtime for you.
He's scum, I just solved the game, and he's desperate and the only path forward for scum is to mislynch me.
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Post Post #4189 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:13 pm

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Skitter I'll vote whoever in this trio you're most sure on but you must see that there's something really wrong with Saudade's turn on me
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Post Post #4190 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 4187, skitter30 wrote:and again his drop of the rce read predated rc's
Thanks for repeating this. I missed it in the first go round. I’ll check that out when doing the hw. Fair warning it’s likely Monday night due to the travels.
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Post Post #4191 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:14 pm

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In post 4147, RadiantCowbells wrote:all in me harder.

it's Math/Plum/Tris, always was.
RC, I like this thought, but is it reasonable?

Would Math waste an NK like this and to what end? So a protective can claim and/or know he's lying? To try and get you lynched?

I mean, I agree that scum was unlikely to have shot him so I haven't really engaged there but I don't get this leap. And what benefits would it give his potential scumteam?
YES HE WOULD.

Double benefit

Can't be guiltied
Makes him look townier
who the fuck purposefully no kills n1 (even to mess up the gamestate)
you'd have to be *ridiculously* confident to do that and in your ability to wrangle several strong townplayers and like ... i just don't think this is a thing that scum actually do

and you keep bringign this up ???
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Post Post #4192 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:14 pm

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In post 4191, skitter30 wrote:who the fuck purposefully no kills n1 (even to mess up the gamestate)
you'd have to be *ridiculously* confident to do that and in your ability to wrangle several strong townplayers and like ... i just don't think this is a thing that scum actually do

and you keep bringign this up ???
I keep bringing it up because it's a lot more likely than you think it is. I don't know what else to say.
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Post Post #4193 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:14 pm

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In post 4140, Saudade wrote:VOTE: rc
dont misrepresent what i do or say ever in your life
i feel like i'm the only voice of reason here

ok

why is rc misrepping you
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Post Post #4194 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:15 pm

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Like Math is all about wacky gambits. I am also all about wacky gambits. So I see the kind of wacky gambits people play in certain gamestates.
Math went out of his way to emphasize that he was the save and how cleared he was because of it. That is exactly the kind of thing Mathblade will do, knowing their scum play.
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Post Post #4195 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:16 pm

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Can you just

concede

that my theory holds at least some water given Sau's inexplicable flip out, Mathblade's play in general, and the fact that both of them are hard counterwagoning Plum/Shos using blatant lies to achieve that end
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Post Post #4196 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 4193, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4140, Saudade wrote:VOTE: rc
dont misrepresent what i do or say ever in your life
i feel like i'm the only voice of reason here

ok

why is rc misrepping you
he implies that me saying I dont like ari so far is me "trying to shift the wagon on him"
like I barely even know the playerlist here let alone the gamephase
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Well, now pride's gone out the window
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Post Post #4197 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 4196, Saudade wrote:he implies that me saying I dont like ari so far is me "trying to shift the wagon on him"
like I barely even know the playerlist here let alone the gamephase
it is absolutely going in the direction of trying to push the lynch on Ari rather than Plum and it is not the only time you brought that read up.
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Post Post #4198 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 4155, teacher wrote:
In post 4131, skitter30 wrote:i feel like i usually have a stronger sense for town!you by now
liek i def did in the c9++ game
Iummm, no?

You called me scum that game?

All game?

That’s the game where I linked how many times you misread me before?

Just no.
it's possible that i'm conflating differnet games (i've played a lot and a few are starting to run together in my head at this point)
or maybe i'm thinking of later in the game (i.e. a later part of the gamestate than where we are here, comparitively)

you might be right tho, let me take a look (tomorrow (irl)) and it's possible that i'm just very badly misremembering because the picutre i have in my head of you is 'easy to read-ish around day2 by postcount, secondarily by contributions'
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Post Post #4199 (ISO) » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 4186, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 4149, Saudade wrote:
In post 4137, RadiantCowbells wrote:Look at Sau tryign to gently push the wagon onto Ari, look at Math's associatives with him this interaction fucking reeked

you will die today for this
DIE
WTF bro.

He's making a case and making a read. He looked at your posting and read the intention behind them, correctly or not, in this fashion.

If you are going to go berserker on anyone who misreads your intentions this really isn't a good passtime for you.
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