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[Ankamius]

what does your team think atm a50

This is MY game now. I will listen to their reads/advice and will discuss in the PT, but I am not sharing the source of anything I say anymore.

I think it's would be FUNNY for me that way. :twisted:

ok

[Ankamius]

if you're going to be like that a50 then I'm just going to assume everything you say is you and just ignore it

ty

[Ankamius]

and that's not a dig at your skill level or really anything other than how you've been responding to me

so

[MariaR]

Ank you know how I feel about NKA

[Almost50]

if you're going to be like that a50 then I'm just going to assume everything you say is you and just ignore it

ty

That's OK. Just look at where my vote['s at!

[MariaR]

The only thing I really get from the Volpe nk that I think is worth talking about is it's all been from dif groups and that is interesting. Volpe himself though? Don't get me started

[Ankamius]

alright

where are your reads at atm

[MariaR]

Why this line of questioning? Not that I mind, but I didn't know my reads were so...unclear?

[MariaR]

Pan/chen
Kuri/Ank/Nom
DV/Almost 50
Gamma/FL
Fire/DEB/EP

[Ankamius]

I want an update because I feel the game has undergone a pretty significant shift

[Ankamius]

vote EP with me?

[MariaR]

Dunn wants me to move my read on you down and my Gamma read up cause he thinks you should be a lot more worried about me given you know my scum game/played with me in starry night. I partly get it, but I'm not about to paranoia push when the slots in my bottom half live. I have a few thoughts myself but I'm not gonna say them cause I don't feel like getting scumread B)
pedit: But firebringerrr-fine
VOTE: EP

[DeasVail]

I still need to read up on Day 3 stuff, but I just need to say.

I looked away for an hour and there were ten pages. Neat.

I don't buy the push on kuribo right now. It just looks like nonsense to me.

Also for fun all of the notes from the previous player in this slot are handwritten in a notebook that was then photographed and uploaded. As near as I can tell, they had a pool so I'm going to park my vote on one of these folks for now.

VOTE: omnom

If anyone can give me a SHORT tl;dr off whose scummy or what for the first two days is relevant, I'm happy to have somewhere to start looking.

Hey! I'm really glad you're here.

I strongly thought your predecessor was town so I'm hoping we'll be able to work together here. I can assure you I'm town so if you need anything from me to be convinced of that, be sure to let me know.

[MariaR]

This game just feels weird to me because I've never gone this long in a game without people pushing me let alone being townread at least to some extent in team mafia. So I'm going 'are my reads wrong or is it just a deadline until people go OPE MARIA TIME TO KILL HER'
But then I push those thoughts down and think of all the fun I can have killing scummy slots.
pedit: DV did you read why I said Vex was lock town? No one commented on it

[Ankamius]

dunn

I've had confident townreads on mariar before

it's not the most common thing ever but it does happen at times, and really there's no point in second guessing a read like that when there's much more scumworthy slots out there

[Ankamius]

btw dann thinks gamma is like... really town

and he was able to explain it in a way that convinced me of it, so gamma's under my protection today

[DeasVail]

pedit: DV did you read why I said Vex was lock town? No one commented on it

This was in Day 2 right? If so, it formed part of my reason for townreading Vex.

[Ankamius]

Ankamius
chennisden/Gammagooey
MariaR/Almost50/Flavor Leaf/Firebringer
panthaleon/davesaz/Dr Easy Bake
kuribo/nomnomnom/DeasVail
EspressoPatronum

this is where I'm at roughly atm

[MariaR]

I'm listening. To the Gamma part anyway.

Dunn wants you to link a game where you've confidently tr me before.

[Ankamius]

I don't believe there's any scenario where anybody in my bottom 4 has any business hitting endgame

[MariaR]

FL and Firebringer are ones I'll need explanation on along with why Panthaleon isn't locked town for reasons I explained

[Ankamius]

I'm listening. To the Gamma part anyway.

Dunn wants you to link a game where you've confidently tr me before.

forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=10826574#p10826574

and I was confidently townreading maria by the end in starry night; the only reason I didn't want my pairing to endgame is because I valued holding town together over burning all my credibility to try to force it

[Ankamius]

I'm listening. To the Gamma part anyway.

Ayyyyy firebringer

VOTE: DeasVail

Also I'm

V/LA

from tomorrow until the 25th (going on vacation to Universal Studios), I'll probably check in most evenings though.

Also for anyone who cares my vote on Deas is reinforced by the fact that his behavior around volxen feels like scum setting up to take advantage of a town-volxen flip while he also seems very unconcerned by both Anka and Almost/skitter coming in with "hey this is actually just what volxen does as scum"

And I still think nom looks very town from her initial fight with volpe early game and 180'ing her read on him at the beginning of that so if you think Deas has a mitigating factor of 'maybe he's right about nom being scum' plz tell me why I'm wrong

Dann thought Gamma specifically pointing this out was like... really really town

and he specifically hunted for scum that were trying to keep their hands clean on the Volxen townflip, which Deas and EP exhibited the strongest from his quick readthrough

[Ankamius]

btw just noting for the record also

that just from a quick skim, Gamma was pretty consistent about scumreading BOTH deasvail and ep, as well as setting up to get as little benefit out of a volxen townflip as possible

I'd be shocked if gamma flipped scum at this point

[Ankamius]

I don't think the nomnomnom townread is really scum indicative at all

going all out on just townreading nomnomnom instead of trying to protect her doesn't make sense from a SvS perspective and it doesn't make sense from a SvT perspective either since there's not a whole lot of point in bothering at all if he would just kill volpe anyway

the entire mindset behind his posting is just town