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Post Post #4425 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:03 am

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And now he's here chain wagoning people that I think are town and I have to be like ok is it possible that this is still town because no matter how much negative equity they add to the game, no matter how absurd their reason for pushing skitter, no matter how hypocritical they are complaining about me then turning around and doing the exact same thing, I can't know for sure.
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Post Post #4426 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:04 am

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RCE it would be very pro-town of you to come in and convince everyone to vote for me instead btw, and it would make me a lot happier.
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Post Post #4427 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:04 am

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You're making me sad
Passion or coincidence once prompted you to say
"Pride will tear us both apart"
Well, now pride's gone out the window
Cross the rooftops, run away
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Post Post #4428 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:07 am

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I'll be here in 2-3 hours, traveling back from my weekend away
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Post Post #4429 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:13 am

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would be really wild if skitter30 is really really rich and is living the high-rise life travelling to exotic resorts every weekend
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Post Post #4430 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:18 am

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In post 4426, RadiantCowbells wrote:RCE it would be very pro-town of you to come in and convince everyone to vote for me instead btw, and it would make me a lot happier.
Having some doubts. Need FL to convince me you're scum again. This Skitter wagon is nuts though, I would lynch any other player before Skitter. Every one of you.
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Post Post #4431 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:22 am

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I would literally put FL last on the list of people on your team whose reads on me you should trust.
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Post Post #4432 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:27 am

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That doesn't mean a lot to me. I'm obviously going to put a bigger emphasis on my team's reads than an unknown alignments reads in game.

So my order is own reads -> team reads -> in-game townreads reads -> Their teamreads

And the last one is weighted less because the alignment of the player is in question.
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Post Post #4433 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:34 am

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Wild cards agreed you're self aware approach to gamestate control was scum indicative. The entire progression through the day from being resigned to today's Lynch till now. Where multiple times you stated you wouldn't fight being the lynch, it's what town needed.

You fought every step of the way till this point and every push against you has been called scum. It screams manipulation of the game.
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Post Post #4434 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:39 am

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But they agree there is at least 1 scum in the (math/Ari/RC) grouping.

FL is leaning Ico scum. Jingle is leaning Plum scum which I felt a lot more strongly about until Ico's voting today.

Same with math I feel, you guys keep throwing around the term townblock but aren't actually using it as intended. What you actually mean when you're saying townblock is "this is the group of players that I want to vote with me." And that's definitely not the same.
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Post Post #4435 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:41 am

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In post 4434, RCEnigma wrote:But they agree there is at least 1 scum in the (math/Ari/RC) grouping.

FL is leaning Ico scum. Jingle is leaning Plum scum which I felt a lot more strongly about until Ico's voting today.

Same with math I feel, you guys keep throwing around the term townblock but aren't actually using it as intended. What you actually mean when you're saying townblock is "this is the group of players that I want to vote with me." And that's definitely not the same.
Lol Ico is not scum.

I will die 100 times to save Ico. The only way Ico is scum is a preplanned gambit with RC due to reasons and I find that super low. I am talking with BBMolla he’s catching up give me a few minutes.
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Post Post #4436 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:43 am

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We agree if Ico is scum it's with RC, for different reasoning.

Anyway, I'm not inclined to have empathy there when you're wagoning my top town read.
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Post Post #4437 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:45 am

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say hi to fl from me rce
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Post Post #4438 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:46 am

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I don’t want empathy. I want cooperation and discussion.

I only want to see Skitter’s responses if she seems town then compromising on RC or Ari I would be willing to compromise on RC, it’s just BBMolla thinks RC is town and Ari is buddying RC and the Ari random vote of me is really telling. My hoodmates are rather tunnelly and I am trying not to be that. BBMolla is also willing to lynch RC to get him to stop posting.

So I would rather see if the Skitter+RC theory has fruit and get what discussion is possible before compromising.
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Post Post #4439 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:46 am

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Sure thing.
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Post Post #4440 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:48 am

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What do you get out of flipping Skitter that you wouldn't out of RC? If you think RC is probably town?
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Post Post #4441 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:48 am

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Maybe I'm not ready to post yet, because that's melting my brain...
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Post Post #4442 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:49 am

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Can you please talk about why you townread Skitter?
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Post Post #4443 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:53 am

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In post 4440, RCEnigma wrote:What do you get out of flipping Skitter that you wouldn't out of RC? If you think RC is probably town?
The goal isn’t a flip.

It’s an investigation into Skitter+RC.

If Skitter is scummy and doesn’t respond to the arguments and the admitted trigger from RC that he turns the game toxic once anyone votes Skitter then that’s weird.

Mainly if Skitter is town we also see different wagon data off of it.

The goal isn’t a flip. It’s to see if I am right and if I am then go forward and if not scum followed me on and we can find who.
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Post Post #4444 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:55 am

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That only works if you're physically capable of seeing that you're wrong.
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Post Post #4445 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:57 am

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I actually really look forward to roasting certain people after TM is over.
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Post Post #4446 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:57 am

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I don't know id I'm interested in reading the last day of pages but I'm sure I will...
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Post Post #4447 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:57 am

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The idea is to bring discussion back.

Wagoning a low content mid level active like Ari or a low content is something that doesn’t provide data.

Even in the best case scenario I am an idiot and shos/Plum is scum there’s nothing to action and we are still in day one in day three.
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Post Post #4448 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:58 am

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Ari, vote Shos.
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Post Post #4449 (ISO) » Sun Jan 19, 2020 11:58 am

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In post 4447, MathBlade wrote:Even in the best case scenario I am an idiot and shos/Plum is scum there’s nothing to action and we are still in day one in day three.
no see here's the thing

just because you don't have data

doesn't mean that we all don't
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